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Re: [Amps] Serious transformer problem

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Serious transformer problem
From: Borislav Trifonov <bdt@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 04:18:12 -0700
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I got the following from rec.audio.tubes:
"Such transformer primaries have very large and NON LINEAR impedances 
when tested with low and medium frequencies. Non linear in the  sense 
that the impedance is a function of the actual level of the test signal 
used."

He also said that since I found both to draw the same current from the 
mains when run with no load, that would indicate there's no problem at 
the low frequencies.  Perhaps I'm lucky and there is really nothing 
wrong.  As for the buzzing, there's less of it when I connect the other 
primary taps, and I can live with the somewhat lower output voltage.

Tom W8JI wrote:
> 1.) There should not be a conductive path between laminations.
There isn't.  I put the core together with nail polish (I don't have 
shellac or transformer epoxy), and that's a good insulator.  The bolts 
use insulating spacers, and pulling them out didn't do anything anyway.

> from side to side. I've seen people actually drill into laminations to 
> mount components!
Ever seen microwave oven transformers?  They usually have welds across 
the core...

> 2.) Run the transformers full voltage ( be SURE they are in a grounded 
> enclosure when powered up) with no load.
I had tested them at full voltage, and both draw the same current from 
mains.  But why should I have them in a grounded enclosure, do you mean 
for safety?

I guess I'll try running them overnight on a fused circuit and see what 
happens.

> A single shorted turn will behave much like you descibe, and evetually 
> make the transformer fail.
The problem I'm having with the shorted turn theory is that this should 
reduce output voltage, but I get normal voltages on all secondaries. 
Unless, of course, it's the electrostatic shield.  Maybe I should stick 
a thermocouple in the foil see if it gets unusually warm.
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