Hi,
I do not want to deny it is the ''copy" of AL811, especially in cabinnet and
posion of the parts. But not all.One of builders is my friend,so I know
something about it.The amplifier what they built NOT a simply copy AL811, they
are doing many creationary work for it.Although they are all beginner, until
they build the amp, they had never build any tube amps. You can see the amp's
build quality is better than AL811.Actually, ANY 811A's linear amplifier what
our makeing now ONLY have few diffrence. Can you say we or Ameritron copy each
other? Chinese began to make the vacuum tubes in 1930s,in 1950s,we can make
almost all tubes in the world.
From 1960s, we began to design vacuum tube,there are many unique tubes was
made in China, and you can not find simlar product in any other countrys.Now,
most Chinese tube factory was closed, include Beijing vacuum factory( it maks
the best miniture tube in China from 1950s, the quality is much better than
well know Shuguang factory what makes 811A and 572B) .BTW, 572B are OEM for
foreign buyer,NOT any Chinese equip use it until 1995.the 811A was copyed from
Russian G-811 in 1950s,NOT direct copy from the West.we product it for about
50 years.I know the America is a most advanced country ,but China was not
located in Sahara! The Vainglory americans!
Finally,I must to tell you,This amp only make few amount for the builder's
friend,No any plan to sell it to the West, you or Americtron needn't jitter
or "boycott" . To tell the truth, this amp is not a REAL a bussiness project,
the builders are only tube amp amateur, not for make money.But I must to say if
Chinese know how much gain in tube amps,maybe all linear tube amp factory have
to closed very soon like all America amateur radio transceiver manufactor
have to close their factory in 1970s due to Japanese competitor.The Vainglory
americans, as a "semi" super power, Chinese's product Not all copy or "Stolen"
from the West.we design indepedent nucler weapon in 1960s, nucler submarine in
1970s, Make tube amps is a too little Case!
Pesonally, I have no hostility to American, I have many good friends in
USA.I 'm interested in tube amp like all person in this reflector.But I think
some are people too hostility.
73! Hsu
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
To: "Fern Rivard" <crc@cyberlink.bc.ca>; "Hsu" <Jbenson@sohu.com>; "kenw2dtc"
<kenw2dtc@comcast.net>
Cc: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Boycott New Chinese linear Amplifier
>> I don't know what that "chinese" linear sells for but
>> because it is obviously a "copy" of one sold by Ameritron,
>> we should simply boycott that unit in America and NOT buy
>> it! Fern
>
> The real point I was trying to make is there could be many
> improvements made in that basic design if the Chinese
> actually put some creative engineering into the product. A
> better product at the same cost or even less cost would be
> widely accepted. The real problem is when someone knows so
> little they just copy something exactly they will make a
> poorer product. Blind copying just rips everyone off, much
> like a thief does.
>
> For example the Chinese could be making 811 tubes or 572
> tubes that are actually better than the old USA tubes.
> Instead, since they do not fully understand the tubes and
> what people need, they only make worse copies. 572's and
> 811's are one of the tubes that for very little change in
> cost could be made much better. The Chinese will never make
> that step unless they learn what the problems really are and
> how to improve the problems.
>
> I don't object at all to their making products as long as
> they just don't copy weak points and sell them. What that
> will do is turn back the reliability of everything and stop
> new innovation all over the world. They need to change that
> "thoughtless copy" mindset.
>
> 73 Tom
>
>
>
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