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Re: [Amps] FW: economics 3501

To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>,"EP Swynar" <gswynar@durham.net>, <dhallam@rapidsys.com>,<Amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] FW: economics 3501
From: "k7rdx" <k7rdx@charter.net>
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:40:30 -0700
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
Why are we bitching about gas prices when we have to pay less than most
Countries world wide? We need a ration system to slow oil company profits? I
just returned from Eu and gas here is very reasonable compared...Consumption
is our issue & if we don`t slow down, prices today will seem small
tomarrow..73 all Jim K7RDX...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
To: "EP Swynar" <gswynar@durham.net>; <dhallam@rapidsys.com>;
<Amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] FW: economics 3501


> Canada, Saudi Arabia and Mexico, in that order, are the biggest suppliers
to
> the US.
>
> Canada has proven to the world that it is safe and feasible to expand
> drilling in the Artic with leading edge technology. The envirowhackos in
the
> US prevent our doing the same. So until the prices reach a breaking point
> that will force a change in policy nothing will change.
>
> What irks me the most is the whining about oil company profits. Of course
> they make a profit but the whackos arent able to understand percentages.
If
> consumption keeps increasing unabated and the refiners profit percentage
> remains unchanged of course they make more money.
>
> One way of shutting up some of the whiners is to ask them how much they
have
> invested in "energy" stocks. Gore for instance refuses to discuss it but
it
> is public knowledge that it is a lot.
>
> When the Demmy candidates come to your area they should be hammered with
> those questions, it will show you that they are all phonies, especially
> Slick Willies b****h.
>
> Thats my one and only rant on the subject. Its a beautiful morning and Im
> going up my tower before the afternoon T storms hit. Behave while Im gone!
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "EP Swynar" <gswynar@durham.net>
> To: <dhallam@rapidsys.com>; <Amps@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] FW: economics 3501
>
>
> > Hi Dave et al,
> >
> > Yipes...!
> >
> > Excuse me, then, whilst I "...exit stage right" to sweep the floor of my
> > tax-free gilded titanic pleasure palace!
> >
> > ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
> > Ontario CANADA (yes, Canada --- the single biggest supplier of oil to
the
> > U.S.A., bigger even than Saudi Arabia, a fact that 99.9% of Americans
are
> > completely unaware of)...
> >
> > *************************
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "David C. Hallam" <dhallam@rapidsys.com>
> > To: <Amps@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 8:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Amps] FW: economics 3501
> >
> >
> >> Come On! You don't seriously think pumping a few barrels of oil into
our
> >> strategic reserve had anything to do with the current price of oil.
> >> Sure,
> >> the demand for oil is up all over the world but the Middle East is
still
> >> awash with oil and Saudi Arabia has a HUGE new oil field ready to come
on
> >> line in about a year.
> >>
> >> The price of petroleum products is controlled by the producers of crude
> > oil,
> >> Saudi Arabia, et al, and not by the refiners and sellers of the
products.
> >> 40 years ago when the sellers were involved in the production, that was
> > not
> >> true but not today.  The producers keep the price of oil as high as
> >> possible, just below the point of doing serious damage to the world
> > economy.
> >> One of their current problems is they are running out of things to do
> >> with
> >> all their money.  You can buy only so many solid silver Audi's or
palaces
> >> the size of a small city.
> >>
> >> Also, do a little research on the total taxes on a gallon of gasoline.
> > Your
> >> friendly state and local governments are taking a major share of the
> >> price
> >> per gallon.  As an aside on taxes, there is an "interesting" situation
> >> developing here in Florida over property taxes.  Property is assessed
at
> > the
> >> sale price.  Once the value is set, taxes cannot rise more than 3% per
> > year
> >> as long as you live in the house.  If the property changes hands, the
> >> assessed value becomes the new sales price.  Given the dramatic
increase
> > in
> >> home prices, taxes on new purchases have soared.  Obviously real estate
> >> agents have not pointed this out to buyers, some of whom were not
astute
> >> enough to figure this out.  The state legislature is trying to do some
> > about
> >> the high real estate taxes.  Of course the cities and counties are
> > screaming
> >> that their budgets will be reduced when taxes are cut.  They
immediately
> >> went into scare tactics mode and splashed all over the headlines about
> >> how
> >> they would have to cut police and fire protection.  Not a word was said
> >> about cutting bloated salaries or pet neighborhood projects of dubious
> >> value.
> >>
> >> Admittedly, there is some predatory pricing on the part of gasoline
> >> retailers, i.e., setting different prices depending upon the affluence
of
> >> the surrounding neighborhood.
> >>
> >> David
> >> KC2JD/4
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: amps-bounces@contesting.com
> >> > [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]On
> >> > Behalf Of Robert Bonner
> >> > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:57 PM
> >> > To: Amps@contesting.com
> >> > Subject: [Amps] FW: economics 3501
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > That's great in theory Lou, and has been tried several times.  We
> >> > don't need
> >> > to move the gas prices 4 cents, we need to move them all at once
> >> > 2 dollars!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Our President came into office determined to pay his debt to the
> >> > oil mafia.
> >> > What did he do?  They refilled the USA oil reserves!  Created the
> > shortage
> >> > and drove the prices through the roof!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This message needs to be sent EVERYWHERE.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The government needs to cut taxes.  I mean we need to operate the
> >> > governments on 25% total taxes.  Start adding up you taxes now.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > CITY, STATE, Sales, real estate, excise, license fees ,
> >> > penalties, fines, it
> >> > goes on and on to about 50% of your income.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Needs fixed
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: Gudguyham@aol.com [mailto:Gudguyham@aol.com]
> >> > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:35 PM
> >> > To: rbonner@qro.com; edk0kl@centurytel.net; Amps@contesting.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [Amps] economics 3501
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In a message dated 7/28/2007 12:18:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >> > rbonner@qro.com writes:
> >> >
> >> > FYI, If we stopped purchasing fuel for 1 week.  The price would be
> >> > $2.00
> > a
> >> > gallon
> >> >
> >> > Bob, we don't have to stop buying fuel for one week and staying
> >> > home.  It' s
> >> > easier than that.  All us US citizens have to do is BOYCOTT one
> >> > gas company
> >> > a week.  For example,  If no one bought gas at Mobil for a full week
> >> > but
> >> > bought gas at ANY other station, what would Mobil do?  I'll bet
within
> > 24
> >> > hours let alone one week, they would lower their prices AND when they
> >> > do
> >> > everybody buys gas there and no where else.  This will force the
other
> >> > companies to meet the lower price.  Done correctly we can start a
> >> > domino
> >> > affect with downward spiraling gas prices.......BUT like you say
> >> > we are too
> >> > stupid.  I see the local Mobil station busy as hell when the Getty
> > station
> >> > right next door is 4 cents a gallon cheaper.  Go figure?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I don't buy gas from Mobil at all.  Lou
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >   _____
> >> >
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> >> >
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> > .
> >> >
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