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Re: [Amps] 572Bs

To: "Alek Petkovic" <vk6apk@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] 572Bs
From: "Hsu" <hsu4qro@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 07:41:15 +0800
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Alek,
   Frankly, this price even  lower  than I can get from my dealer.I know the 
manufacturer's list price,this price  only few gross profit.If the manufacturer 
return some gain to seller  in the end of a year( a  tradition of  Chinese 
manufacturer), the seller will lose money in business.
  BTW, a soon as I finshed my band switch project,I;ll let you know.
          73!Hsu
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alek Petkovic" <vk6apk@bigpond.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] 572Bs


> My pleasure Mitch
> 
> I get mine from a supplier in China but you can get them from the guy 
> below at exactly the same prices. I have bought from him also and  I 
> believe that Carl, KM1H has dealt with him on numerous occasions.
> 
> http://stores.ebay.com/qMall/Tube-/_i.html?_fsub=7152201&_sid=214893880&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
> 
> 73, Alek
> VK6APK
> 
> 
> At 06:48 AM 20/01/2011, Mitch Cox wrote:
>>I have no way of knowing where the Chinese tubes I have experienced 
>>have come from. The brands that I have tried would include; Taylor, 
>>RF Parts select, Penta (X dealer), Jet Stream and the no name white 
>>box variety. I cannot recommend any of these to anyone for any 
>>reason. The quality control on the afore mentioned that I have 
>>purchased were terrible, never 2 the same length, had alignment 
>>problems with the grid and filament structures, lost the anode caps, 
>>were not glued to the base correctly and the ones that didn't flash 
>>over immediately or did actually light up and work, didn't last 6 
>>months. If you can tell me what brand name they are selling in the 
>>US under I would be more than happy to purchase them and gladly give 
>>them a try. If in fact they are marketed under a brand I have 
>>already mentioned don't bother because myself and thousands of other 
>>US hams have had or are experiencing the same problems with these 
>>products daily. Ameritron has piles of them that have been returned.
>>Best Regards,
>>Mitch
>>W4COX
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:vk6apk@bigpond.com>Alek Petkovic
>>To: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>amps@contesting.com
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 5:21 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Amps] 572Bs
>>
>>That's certainly different to my experience Mitch.
>>
>>The 200+, Shuguang (Chinese) 572B, that I have bought direct from
>>China and onsold to hams in VK have been absolutely superb.
>>
>>I have had just 2 failures "out of the box" and none after that in
>>the 7 years that I have been handling them. I have had zero failures
>>of any kind from a similar number of 811A tubes from the same factory.
>>
>>The 2 failed 572B's were replaced without question on my subsequent
>>order from the supplier in China.
>>
>>Not only are they superb in that regard, they are plug and play with
>>the Cetron variety and they really produce the grunt when needed and
>>their longevity is excellent when care is taken with filament voltage.
>>
>>I can't say anything other than I am really impressed with them.
>>
>>
>>73, Alek
>>VK6APK
>>
>>At 11:27 PM 19/01/2011, Mitch Cox wrote:
>> >Paul,
>> >I am sure you will receive many answers to your question on this
>> >subject. I will give you an answer that pertains to my experience 
>> with 572B's.
>> >I have built many amplifiers over the years for people using this
>> >tube, only 3 last year and one so far this year. In my experience
>> >the Russian tube is by far superior to what is available from the
>> >Chinese today regardless of the name or label printed on them. In
>> >the past 10 years I have found that the Chinese tubes have about a
>> >40% failure rate new, out of the box here. So far I have had one
>> >Svetlana tube fail to light out of about 50 that has been through my
>> >shop. The Svetlana tubes last much longer and have much higher stage
>> >gain than any of the Chinese tubes that I have tried. I have had
>> >very good luck purchasing these tubes from Frank Krize, K5SVC at
>> >Krize Electronics. I am pretty sure that my experience is not an
>> >exception but keep in mind that a fellow asked a simple question
>> >about a fuse about 5 weeks ago and that lasted at least 3 weeks on
>> >this forum venturing from a simple fuse question blossoming into
>> >fluid induction breakers. There are a lot of people who don't co
>> >  nsider the 572B a worthwhile venture but for $150.00 for 3, they
>> > pretty much equal the performance of a 3-500Z.
>> >Best Regards,
>> >Mitch
>> >W4COX
>> >   ----- Original Message -----
>> >   From: Paul Manuel
>> >   To: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>amps@contesting.com
>> >   Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:11 AM
>> >   Subject: [Amps] 572Bs
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   Good morning. I'm a new list member and I've really learned a lot
>> > from the archives. The knowledge is much appreciated.
>> >
>> >   Now a couple of questions...where do most of you buy quality
>> > 572Bs at a reasonable price? What is the final concensus on Chinese
>> > vs Russian tubes? Thanks!
>> >
>> >   73, Paul K4PDM
>> >
>> >
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