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Re: [Amps] Alpha vs Henry

To: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>, "Al Kozakiewicz" <akozak@hourglass.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Alpha vs Henry
From: "Jeff Blaine" <keepwalking188@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 20:33:07 -0500
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RTTY contest duty is the worst for the transformer - not for the tube.

The thermal mass of the transformer is huge and if it starts out with a low 
temp the gradient will keep the innermost windings from 
heating to max in RTTY service until you've been running for an hour or so.  
And as the guys mentioned earlier, any air circulation 
on the transformer (even really minimal levels) will have a huge impact on the 
final temps the tx reaches.

If you want to whack the tube, a good 5 minute RTTY transmission is the way to 
go.  The tube heats up to it's max after maybe 15-30 
seconds - just stick a probe and watch the exhaust temps stop rising at some 
point the system is stable and if you have not pushed 
pass the tube op temps (seal limited) then it's probably going to be fine.

73, Jeff ACØC
www.ac0c.com

-----Original Message----- 
From: Carl
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 7:44 PM
To: Al Kozakiewicz ; amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Alpha vs Henry

Maybe time to see what the anode temperature is but Id think 1000W out would
be fine.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Kozakiewicz" <akozak@hourglass.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] Alpha vs Henry


> 1500 watts continuous for 30 minutes; 2500 for 30 seconds.
>
> Even if I do nothing but call CQ every 2 seconds, that's probably "only"
> about a 60% duty cycle.  I'm just trying to get a feel for how much
> derating is prudent when using the thing for extended periods of time.
>
> 73
>
> Al
> AB2ZY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:37 PM
> To: Al Kozakiewicz; amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Alpha vs Henry
>
> What does Ameritron say?
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Al Kozakiewicz" <akozak@hourglass.com>
> To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Alpha vs Henry
>
>
>> Can anyone tell me how much power an AL-1500 is rated to produce at a
>> 100%
>> duty cycle?
>>
>> During RTTY contests and outputting about 1000 watts, the tube side of
>> the
>> cabinet gets mighty warm.  The power supply side seems cool - but then,
>> that's with the cover on.  I don't know how hot is too hot and it would
>> be
>> useful to know at least how much continuous power the supply is rated
>> for.
>>
>> Tube cooling is probably another issue...
>>
>> Al
>> AB2ZY
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