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Re: [Amps] home brew 811a amp - need some advice

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Subject: Re: [Amps] home brew 811a amp - need some advice
From: Vic K2VCO <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:18:23 -0800
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My guess is that moisture in the transformer caused an insulation breakdown. 
I've seen 
recommendations here in the past for how to dry out a transformer before use. 
If it was 
stored in a damp location, this may be the explanation. It's not the fault of 
the tubes.

On 12/17/2011 7:20 AM, Ulf (SM0NOR) wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I need some advice from you more experienced guys....
>
> I've been building on my 811a amp for some months now and I'm reaching 
> quickly the
> point of the "big" test. Every section of the amp has been tested with only 
> low
> voltages and I basically only had one more test to perform before applying HV 
> and some
> watts of drive. The test I was about to perform today was applying only 
> filament to the
> tubes and no HV. The idea was to run the NOS 811:s for a couple of hours with 
> only
> filament before applying the HV.
>
> The test went very well in the beginning; all tubes lit up and I measured 
> 6.35 volts at
> the pins on the tube. I noticed some heat in the filament choke, but the 
> temperature
> leveled out on 38 degrees (Celcius that is, sorry F-guys). But after about an 
> hour the
> amp went dead with blown fuses and a burnt step start resistor. Having checked
> everything in the circuit it would appear that the transformer shorted, or 
> broke. The
> transformer is most likely dead as a result of this test. If I apply about 10 
> volts AC
> to the primary, I get 1,5 volts in the HV secondary instead of 47 volts, 
> which I had
> before, in previous tests.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1, What would have caused the transformer  to melt down? Or perhaps brake 
> down? I only
> had filament and control circuits hooked up. No HV = not connected to the 
> bridge
> board. 2, Can old, NOS 811a cause this by shortening its filament? And would 
> you advice
> against NOS tubes? Should I go for chinese instead? 3, How can I protect my 
> transformer
> in the future? Obviously the fuses in the primary was not enough to protect 
> the
> transformer.
>
> The transformer, by the way.. is an original Ameritron 811H.
>
> I can also offer some pictures here: 
> http://gallery.me.com/ulf.tjerneld#100183 The last
> pictures are a couple of months old. More has happened since then. They may 
> not give a
> clue to what happened but they give you an idea of the level of standard with 
> which I
> have carried out the project.
>
> Thanks! Happy for any advice before I get out for a new transformer!
>
>
> 73's
>
> Ulf (SM0NOR) ulf@sm0nor.com
>
>
>
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-- 
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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