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Re: [Amps] Coupling a blower to an air system socket

To: Carl <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Coupling a blower to an air system socket
From: Vic Rosenthal <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:30:01 -0700
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How big does the pressurized subchassis have to be to smooth out the airflow? 
My amp under construction (4cx1000a) has the socket in a 7x7x2 inch box with 
the blower pushing air into the side.  Too small?

Vic K2VCO

On Mar 16, 2013, at 7:16 AM, "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com> wrote:

> If youre building from scratch then Id think you would make the effort to 
> accomodate the cooling system from the beginning. Use a subchassis for the 
> tube that is easily pressurized (Ameritron will sell you several types and 
> the blower that mates to them) or construct internal walls in a large 
> chassis; companies sell those parts. Then mount the blower on the rear of the 
> main chassis.
> 
> If a duct is required then "Shop Vac" hoses or dryer ducts can be used. I use 
> a large Shop Vac hose to cool a military surplus 432 mHz cavity amp and 
> fabricated a small box  to transition from the hose to the cavity air inlet. 
> The hose is very flexible and allows the blower to be conveniently mounted so 
> that air is drawn over the PS and control circuitry. The cavity inlet air is 
> barely warm and the 2750W Pd tube is only running 1200W out (If I cranked it 
> up my feedline and antenna would melt) so everything runs comfortable.
> 
> Ductwork has air resistance so use as short a length as possible unless the 
> blower has sufficient capacity.
> 
> Carl
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  I believe the air system socket connected to a duct is especially useful 
>> when
>> you can't have a pressurized cabinet. There are situations where large 
>> cabinets
>> are used and sealing them is not possible.
>> 
>> 73
>> Bill wa4lav
>> 
>> At 09:04 PM 3/15/2013 -0400, KA4INM wrote:
>>> On 03/15/13 16:58, Alan Ibbetson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> For minimum airflow resistance for a forced air cooled amplifier it
>>>> would seem the blower needs to discharge in a straight line directly
>>>> into the underside of the valve socket. This leads to a fairly tall
>>>> structure with the blower underneath the RF deck.
>>> 
>>>> What is the "right" way to make the physical connection between blower
>>>> and air system socket? Rigid ducting? Something resilient like rubber?
>>>> Or (what intrigues me) how about a fabric transition duct as shown in
>>>> several places here
>>> 
>>>> http://users.pipeline.com.au/~burst/stc.htm
>>> 
>>>> The "floppy" fabric seems attractive as a way to take up minor (major?)
>>>> misalignment between the blower and RF deck if they are built as
>>>> separate units and should help isolate any blower vibration. A competent
>>>> seamstress (seam-master) would be able to take differences in duct shape
>>>> and size in their stride too.
>>> 
>>>> Has anyone got a feel for the pros and cons of the use of fabric rather
>>>> than more rigid blower couplings?
>>> 
>>>  I should think the difference is negligible and not worth the bother.
>>> Many successful amplifiers using all kinds of air cooled tubes have been 
>>> built with the system where they are simply pressurizing the box under the 
>>> tube/s with the air passing through or around the tube/s above.
>>> --
>>>  Ron  KA4INM - Youvan's corollary:
>>>                Every action results in unwanted side effects.
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