Thanks Joe
Any fix or mod for this? If not, I'll continue to use the rigs tuner to knock
down the SWR to ensure I don’t cause any damage to output transistors on the
7800 or other transceiver.
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On 12/11/2023 12:38 PM, Victor Rosenthal wrote:
> The Henry Ultra amps have pi-network input circuits for each band.
> They have adjustable coils, L1-L6 on the schematic. If someone has
> misadjusted them, you can see high SWR.
The 3K/8K Ultra does not have tuned inputs ... it has a pair of
1:1.56 "UNUN" and no (cathode) swamping unlike the Alpha 77 which has a tuned
tank (parallel resonant) per band. The lack of a tuned input in the Henry
places the uncompensated grid to cathode capacitance directly across the input.
The 3K and 8K Ultra manual with schematics and parts list is here:
<http://bama.edebris.com/download/henry/3k8kultra/3K%20and%208K%20Ultra.pdf>
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 12/11/2023 12:38 PM, Victor Rosenthal wrote:
> Carl,
>
> I understand that the SWR as shown on the meter in the transceiver is
> high when the amplifier is operating, but the SWR on the line to the
> antenna is normal. Is that correct?
>
> The Henry Ultra amps have pi-network input circuits for each band.
> They have adjustable coils, L1-L6 on the schematic. If someone has
> misadjusted them, you can see high SWR.
>
> Does this happen on all bands or just some of them?
>
> 73,Victor, 4X6GP
> Rehovot, Israel
> Formerly K2VCO
> CWops no. 5
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>
>
> On 11/12/2023 18:08, Carl Braun wrote:
>> Hello John
>>
>> I am seeing high VSWR on my 7800 when using the Henry ULTRA amp. I
>> don't hear or see RFI on my monitored signal but the VSWR meter is
>> certainly responding differently to the Henry amp than it does to my
>> Alpha amp. By engaging the tuner on the 7800 I can get MOST of the
>> Henry's VSWR down to under 1.5 or so. Placing a W2FMI line isolator
>> (1:1) in between the 7800 and the Henry did nothing to lessen the
>> high VSWR I saw coming back at the transceiver. It should be noted
>> that the RF console was approx. 3' from the transceiver at the time
>> of testing with a 25' RG-58 exciter coa from the rig to the input of
>> the amp.
>>
>> I've pulled my dummy load out of storage and am ready to test the amp
>> with that. The antennas I have been using with the Henry are all
>> flat at their respective frequencies. I see less than 1.3:1 at 1.5KW
>> on my Powermaster II monitor, and on the 7800 VSWR meter, when using
>> the Alpha. Palomar is sending over a couple of choke kits for the
>> radio room and the antenna feeds. Choke kits for the TXCVR and AMP
>> as well as 1:1 chokes for vertical antenna feed points. As one
>> responder noted; Henry basically suggests you don't use the tuner in
>> the TXCVR to knock down any VSWR. I plan on asking Dennis Pickering
>> about the issue next time I have him on the phone.
>>
>> More experimenting later this week as I am currently wiring in a
>> 240VAC feed on the opposite side of the radio room so I don't have to
>> test the Henry consoles in close proximity of the operating position.
>> More updates afterward.
>>
>> Carl W9LF
>>
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>> Subject: Re: [Amps] Starting up a NEW Henry amp
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>> Are you saying that the Henry is causing RFI in your transceiver? Is
>> this occurring with a dummy load or does you antenna feedline have CMC?
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>>
>>
>> Carl Braun W9LF wrote?
>>
>> By enabling the tuner in the rig I can knock down most of the SWR
>> when running the Henry's but I don't have to do that with my other
>> amp. One difference... I do have a longer coax run (25') from the
>> Henry's back to the PM II watt meter . The Alpha has a three ft (3')
>> jumper from the amp to the watt meter. I'm going to shorten the coax
>> from the Henry RF consoles to the coupler to 8' or so to see if that
>> lessens any of the RF coming back to the rig. I do have a W2FMI line
>> isolator in the line going to the amps with no visible changes. More
>> parts are coming like RFI kits for the amp and transceiver, a 1:1
>> unun for the output of the amp and one for the base of the antenna.
>> Any other Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Carl W9LF
>>
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