My personal opinion....
Pre-arranging a qso prior to a contest is an act of collusion and is as
invalid as calling them on the telephone during the contest...the fact that
the act of collusion occurs, temporally, prior to the contest period, does
not excuse the conduct...if the act is invalid during the contest, it is
invalid per se...Any form of aid in locating a contact is unsportsmanlike...
It is no different in kind than shooting a sitting bird, or using dynamite in
the old fishing hole, or sneaking a look at the examination paper of the guy
on your left...
Anticipating some reactions:
To argue that no radio contest can be totally fair because some will always
have bigger towers and live on a 400 foot cliff above the atlantic ocean,
etc., etc, etc. , therefore all contesting is 'no holds barred' , is specious
and intellectually dishonest... and is not an argument which carries any
weight with me...
Addendum:
If you choose to comment, this topic is about specific contesting
principles... Not personalities, calls, or specific countries...Please
arrange your remarks accordingly...
Denny K8DO@AOL.COM
>From robert <w5robert@blkbox.COM> Sat Sep 9 19:42:17 1995
From: robert <w5robert@blkbox.COM> (robert)
Subject: Sportsmen:
Message-ID: <9509091342.aa21626@blkbox.COM>
Denny, Iwould like to comment on making skeds before the contest.
As I understand the CQ WW rules, It's OK for CQ WW.
See K3EST's CQ WW Contest Handbook, page 47 (94 edition on pg 47)
--
73 Robert WB5CRG w5robert@blkbox.com
>From Will Sill <will@epix.net> Sat Sep 9 20:20:05 1995
From: Will Sill <will@epix.net> (Will Sill)
Subject: Sportsmen:
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950909150619.23189A-100000@mango.epix.net>
On Sat, 9 Sep 1995 K8DO@aol.com wrote:
> My personal opinion....
> Pre-arranging a qso prior to a contest is an act of collusion and is as
> invalid as calling them on the telephone during the contest...the fact that
> the act of collusion occurs, temporally, prior to the contest period, does
> not excuse the conduct...if the act is invalid during the contest, it is
> invalid per se...Any form of aid in locating a contact is unsportsmanlike...
> It is no different in kind than shooting a sitting bird, or using dynamite in
> the old fishing hole, or sneaking a look at the examination paper of the guy
> on your left...
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I am very much inclined to agree. The INTENT to "cheat" may not be there,
but it's my opinion that arranging contest skeds is one of the practices
that takes away from the spirit of contesting significantly. It gives an
edge - an unfair one, IMO, to individuals with the time and resources to
"line up" the ducks in advance - very much like setting out a salt lick
for deer season.
Myself, I would like to hope that another amateur who outscores me in my
class did so because he/she was a more proficient operator and not because
of having a clandestine "pit crew" smoothing the track ahead of time. It
doesn't mean a lot for me to "win" unless it's just me and my radio!
will@epix.net - KD3XR - W F Sill, Tunkhannock, PA
>From Igor Sokolov" <igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su Sat Sep 9 02:27:09 1995
From: Igor Sokolov" <igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su (Igor Sokolov)
Subject: ??TS-430 Final transistors
Message-ID: <ADjrEKmWFG@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su>
A friend of mine RU9CO got a problem with final of his TS-430 that stops him
from participating in the contests. Can somebody please send me specs
on 2SC2290 transistors which are used in that radio. What is the possible
substitute?
How much does it cost (a pair). Knowing the specs we may find some Russian
substitute (I hope...).
Please, reply directly to me, not to overload the reflector traffic.
Thanks in advance.
--
Best regards,
Igor Sokolov, UA9CDC , (N3TOD)
E-mail: igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su
Phone/Fax: 3432 229621
>From Igor Sokolov" <igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su Sat Sep 9 01:16:52 1995
From: Igor Sokolov" <igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su (Igor Sokolov)
Subject: Sportsmen
Message-ID: <ABqpDKmWFG@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su>
Hi Denny,
I predict, this is going to be a long thread
>Pre-arranging a qso prior to a contest is an act of collusion and is as
>invalid as calling them on the telephone during the contest...the fact that
>the act of collusion occurs, temporally, prior to the contest period, does
>not excuse the conduct...if the act is invalid during the contest, it is
>invalid per se...
How about making your call known by operating between the contests or
letting others know that you are going to operate in the contest. Or did
you only mean land line calls and mail and other "non-Ham related" methods?
>Any form of aid in locating a contact is unsportsmanlike...
I was always wondering if it is unsportsmenlike during CW contest to ask
someone, operating on SSB to give you 001 CW QSO.
>It is no different in kind than shooting a sitting bird, or using dynamite in
Or maybe it is just preparing your shooting position and finding out the
WX forcast?
>Denny K8DO@AOL.COM
--
Best regards,
Igor Sokolov, UA9CDC , (N3TOD)
E-mail: igor@sokol.pssr.e-burg.su
Phone/Fax: 3432 229621
>From oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) Sat Sep 9 20:52:01 1995
From: oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) (Derek Wills)
Subject: Sportsmen
>>I predict, this is going to be a long thread
It was fairly long the last 2 or 3 times this came up. Sigh.
If the last time's exchanges are archived, someone should just
send that to anyone who is interested, I'm sure nothing new has
happened since last time.
See at least one of you in the Sprint (contest) -
Derek AA5BT, G3NMX
oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu
>From Larry Tyree <tree@cmicro.com> Sun Sep 10 07:05:16 1995
From: Larry Tyree <tree@cmicro.com> (Larry Tyree)
Subject: Sprint score rumors
Message-ID: <199509100605.XAA13107@cascade.cmicro.com>
Here are the scores that were captured on 3829 after the NCJ CW Sprint.
If you have any additions, you can send them to kc7kmc@cmicro.com.
K5GA 295 45 13275
KC5NWX (KR0Y) 269 49 13181 LP (WOW!)
K7UP 263 45 11835
WN4KKN 241 47 11327 LP
K2ZJ 263 43 11309
W2RQ 267 42 11214
KT3Y 255 43 10965
N6XI 247 44 10868
NM5M 253 42 10626
K0RF 230 46 10580 LP
AC6T 245 43 10535
K6XO 248 42 10416
N6RO 254 40 10160
N6VR 254 40 10160
N4OGW 246 41 10086
K6LL 245 41 10045 LP
KC5PRF (K5GN) 232 42 9744 LP
AC8E (K8MR) 231 41 9471
K9ZO 230 41 9430
KC7KMC (N6TR) 227 41 9307 LP OpAid6
KB0SRK 238 39 9282 LP
N8SR 237 39 9243
NN7L 237 39 9243
WB5SQG (K5ZD) 221 40 8840 LP
AH3C 231 38 8778 LP
KC5OYM (N5RZ) 208 42 8736 LP BUG
KA6LAF (N6AA) 198 44 8712 LP
VE4VV 229 38 8702
KA9FOX 221 39 8619
NV6O 215 40 8600
W0UA 238 36 8568 LP
WA2SRQ 219 38 8322 LP
W5NN (KB5YVT) 198 42 8316 LP
KE6UCF (N6TV) 205 39 7995 LP
AA7BG 191 37 7067 LP
N6YK 178 0 ??
W6MVW 174 39 6786
WK6V 160 42 6720
WR3O 163 34 5542
N6TR (K2MM) 140 39 5460
K1IU 128 0 ??
VE5SF 125 33 4125
K6LRN 115 30 3450 LP
KE7X 66 27 1782
WX9E 0 0 0 VLP
Tree KC7KMC
kc7kmc@cmicro.com
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