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Re: [CQ-Contest] CK in ARRL SS

To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>,Untitled <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CK in ARRL SS
From: Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:14:35 -0700
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Since the check is meaningless why don't we send the last serial number we
received instead...Now that would be interesting....

Or make the ck meaningful and make it a multiplier.......


On 11/7/07 3:57 PM, "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net> wrote:

> A solution that only a lawyer could love:
> 
>   4    Exchange: The required exchange consists of:
>   ~
>   4.4. Check
>   4.4.a.  Single Operators
>   4.4.a.1.   Operating from their own station, or as a guest operator under
> their own call: the last two digits of the year you were first licensed.
>   4.4.a.2.    Operating as a guest operator under another individual
> operators call:  the last two digits of the year the station owner was first
> licensed
>   4.4.a.3.    Operating as a guest operator under a club call sign:  the
> last two digits of the year the club or club predeccesor was first licensed
>   4.4.b.  Multi Operator stations
>   4.4.b.1   Non-club groups:  the last two digits of the year the station
> owner was first licensed
>   4.4.b.2.  Club stations:  the last two digits of the year the club or club
> predeccesor was first licensed.
>   4.4.b.2.a.  If the club was formed from the combination of two or more
> clubs over the years, the first year of license of the "surviving"
> organization should be used.  If it was a true merger with neither of the
> original organizations "surviving," the club may use the year of the merger,
> or the year that the oldest predecessor club was first licensed,
>   4.4.c.    Exceptions:
>   4.4.c.1.  If an individual operator lacks documentation to specifically
> identify the year of first license, or if that individual operator does not
> recall the year of first license, he or she should use their best reasonable
> guess to identify the year of first license.
>   4.4.c.2.  If a club station lacks documentation to specifically identify
> the year of first license for the club or it's predecessors, or there are
> more than one eligible predeccesro clubs or equivalent entities, the station
> trustee or other officer of the club should use their best reasonable guess
> to identify the year of first license.
>   4.4.c.3.  If an individual or club has in good faith selected what they
> reasonably assume to be their best guess as to the year of first license,
> and they find out in the course of the contest that this information might
> be inaccurate, they are to continue using the same check that they began the
> contest with to avoid discrepancies with stations who have already contacted
> them.
>   4.4.c.4.  If an individual or club learns (as noted in 4.4.c.3 above) that
> they used the wrong check in the CW portion of the contest, they should use
> the correct check in the SSB portion of the contest.
> 
> -------
> Now, do we REALLY need to get THAT detailed in the description of how to
> determine the check?
> 
> Yes, I'm disappointed that my old college club has used the "wrong" check
> because the kids up there don't know the club history, but I'll live.  At
> least they're making a good faith effort to stay within the rules.
> 
> But I disagree with this notion of "just pick two digits at random" as that
> is not within the spirit, if not the letter, of the rules.  That it isn't
> enforced is beside the point; you are expected to use good amateur practice
> when operating, and that means (IMHO, YMMV) staying within the spirit if not
> the letter of the rules.
> 
> 73, ron w3wn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:06:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jim Reisert AD1C <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CK in ARRL SS
> To: Steve Harrisonusa <k0xp@dandy.net>, Jim Reisert AD1C
> <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: rneece@bwsm.com, CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>,
> contest@arrl.org
> 
> --- Steve Harrisonusa <k0xp@dandy.net> wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, doesn't fly with me. The rule is already perfectly clear: THE YEAR
>> THE STATION WAS FIRST LICENSED.
>> 
>> What's to misunderstand about that???????
> 
> Steve, the rule is NOT clear:
> 
> http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2007/novss.html
> 
>   4    Exchange: The required exchange consists of:
>   4.4. Check (the last two digits of the year you were first licensed);
> 
> Who is "you" at a multi-op station?
> 
> 73 -  Jim AD1C
> 
> 
> --
> Jim Reisert AD1C/?, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.us
> 
> 
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