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Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted

To: "Rick Lindquist, WW1ME" <ww1me@roadrunner.com>, "Pete Smith N4ZR" <n4zr@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted
From: "Kutzko, Sean, KX9X" <kx9x@arrl.org>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:35:28 -0500
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Hi Pete-

I don't believe the Programs and Services Committee has released the minutes 
yet.

I also don't think that the addition of new categories in contests is a "minor 
matter."

73,

Sean Kutzko KX9X
Contest Branch Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
225 Main Street
Newington, CT  06111 USA
(860) 594-0232
email: kx9x@arrl.org



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Lindquist, WW1ME [mailto:ww1me@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Fri 1/25/2013 4:13 PM
To: 'Pete Smith N4ZR'
Cc: 'CQ Contest'; Kutzko, Sean, KX9X
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted
 
No, but you now have asked Sean regarding board action on the proposed rules
change, and he's a person who should know. 

 

I was simply explaining how League governance typically works, since you had
asked "Why it requires a decision at that level." In my experience the board
has voted by e-mail or teleconference on a few occasions, but this is the
exception, and that wasn't the question you raised anyway. Your ARRL
director or perhaps Pres Craigie or EVP Dave Sumner can address this
governance issue far better than I could. 

 

But, I don't have a dog in this hunt.

 

73, Rick, WW1ME

 

From: Pete Smith N4ZR [mailto:n4zr@contesting.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:54 PM
To: Rick Lindquist, WW1ME
Cc: CQ Contest; Kutzko, Sean, KX9X
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted

 

Rick, I'm well aware of that, which is why I contacted Directors who
contest, to try to get the issue before the Board.  My question really goes
to why the question has to wait for a semi-annual Board meeting, when a
Board committee could vote on such minor matters by e-mail "as needed."  You
seem to be well patched in - do you know what they decided, if anything?

On second thought, I'm copying Sean - he should know.



73, Pete N4ZR
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On 1/25/2013 12:00 PM, Rick Lindquist, WW1ME wrote:

Pete, the CAC is what it says - "advisory." It's also comprised of
volunteers. The CAC reports its findings and recommendations to the Board of
Directors, and the board decides (or not). This puts the decision-making in
the hands of individuals who have been elected by the ARRL membership.
 
73, Rick, WW1ME
 
-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Pete Smith N4ZR
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:32 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted
 
What Rich says is correct.  I would just add that the ARRL 10 and 160
contests are severely anachronistic in this respect.  Nobody is suggesting
that assistance be allowed for "pure" single-ops, but surely there should be
a SOA category in these contests. That there is not dates back to the
earliest days of DX clusters.  To my knowledge, nobody has advanced a reason
for keeping the status quo.
 
I have been in correspondence with the CAC and various directors about this,
and one told me that action might be taken in the January ARRL Board
meeting, which has just taken place.  Why it requires a decision at that
level is beyond me, but that's what we have.  Now waiting for detailed
minutes to learn what, if anything, was done.
 
73, Pete N4ZR
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On 1/25/2013 8:51 AM, Richard DiDonna NN3W wrote:

Usually if it says nothing, the assumption is that you must classify

yourself as multi-single as the single operator rules have language about
the -operator- doing all of the activity.

 
ARRL 160 and ARRL 10 do not have separate assisted categories -

necessitating that assisted ops enter as multi single entries.

 
73 Rich NN3W
 
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----- Reply message -----
From: Ktfrog007@aol.com
Date: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 7:30 am
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted
To:  <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
 
If a contest's rules say nothing about Assisted operation, does that 
mean it's allowed without restriction?
  
Note that Single-Op has no uniform definition.  For example, in the  
ARRL RTTY Roundup, Single-Ops cannot be Assisted, while in the CQ WPX  
RTTY everyone can operate Assisted.
  
73,
Kermit (Ken) AB1J
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