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Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote contest operation

To: w1ve@yccc.org
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote contest operation
From: iain macdonnell - N6ML <ar@dseven.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:29:21 -0700
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A VPN is unlikely to help with packet-loss/delay-spikes *unless* those
are caused by traffic prioritisation somewhere in the network path,
and VPN traffic happens to be prioritised higher than whatever you're
using for audio-streaming. Otherwise, a VPN through an intermediate
server is likely to make it worse, as the network path will be less
direct.

73,

    ~iain / N6ML


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Gerry Hull <gerry@yccc.org> wrote:
> If throughput is not the issue, but rather restrictive ISPs, then I would
> recommend a peer-to-peer VPN, and there are two free solutions.   Hamachi
> (from www.logmein.com), free for more than enough users.  Simple to set up,
> central config and client download, works on all Windows OS and Linux.
>  When running Hamachi, each end can see every port on a participating
> client (as long as firewall does not restrict), so no worries about ISP
> port restrictions.
>
> The second one I recommend is Neorouter (www.neorouter.com).  They have
> free server and client software.   What I did was rent a small Linux VPS on
> the net (~$10 - $12/year -- see www.lowendbox.com) to host my neorouter
> server.  This gives it a public IP and guaranteed to be up.  Then, al; the
> clients I want connect and can see each other.   This is great for contests
> were geographically diverse multis are allowed (such as HQ stations in
> IARU).
>
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry W1VE
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:16 AM, C. "Fred" Johnson <fredwt2p@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> One approach you could try if you're on a restrictive ISP such as comcast
>> is getting a VPS (I use linode and openvpn to route all traffic from home
>> to the tunnel and then out to the net).. Comcast only sees encrypted
>> traffic (thus they think you're on a work VPN) to your VPS... Works well..
>> Upgraded speeds will help if your ISP is employing any kind of packet
>> inspection or throttling. I just finally got the kinks worked out here...
>>
>> 73,
>> WT2P
>>
>> On 4/9/13 8:26 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>>
>>> Comcast just doubled their speeds at least in the Denver area.  We are
>>> now getting 56mb download speeds and around 11mb up.
>>>
>>> K6VVA was running a similar setup maybe Rick will chime in.
>>>
>>> Mike W0MU
>>>
>>> On 4/9/2013 5:42 PM, Barry wrote:
>>>
>>>> I tried some remote operation in the 10m contest using a TS480 and
>>>> Remoterig.  The radio control worked fine, but we had lots of problems with
>>>> dropped dits, timing problems, etc. on CW, presumably due to dropped
>>>> packets and/or latency issues.  I don't know if it's my particular network
>>>> or a common problem, but I've heard others using Comcast as an ISP having
>>>> similar issues.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if anyone has had success using some other remote system for CW
>>>> contesting.
>>>>
>>>> Tnx,
>>>> Barry W2UP
>>>>
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