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Re: [CQ-Contest] The REAL way remotes are used

To: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] The REAL way remotes are used
From: Charles Harpole <hs0zcw@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 00:35:18 +0700
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Kelly, look up Glenn's remarks I paraphrased as he speaks about K1N
experience.  It is not just me, and yes it is naive to think this never
happens.  Charly

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net> wrote:

> Ron, Ron, Ron,
>
> Don't you know by now? Never let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy
> theory...
>
> ;=)
>
> 73, kelly
> ve4xt
>
>
> On 2/27/15 9:58 AM, "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > OK Charles...
> >
> > That's an interesting, if highly cynical, theory.
> >
> > You do have some proof that this is what was, and is, going on, isn't it?
> >
> > More importantly... how many hams... strike that.  How many active &
> > competitive DX'ers and/or contesters are doing this?  A thousand?  A
> hundred?
> > A dozen?  One?
> >
> > Please cite sources.  Otherwise, with all due respect, this is all
> theory and
> > speculation.
> >
> > Or to put it another way, it is certainly possible, and even probable,
> that
> > this is going on to some degree.  Or will soon.  But before we break out
> the
> > pitch forks, torches, tar & feathers, can we actually have some idea of
> what
> > really is going on?
> >
> > 73, ron w3wn
> >
> > On 02/27/15, Charles Harpole wrote:
> >
> > -Early on, "x" years ago, stations could tap into remote receivers all
> > around the world to hear better in specific geographic areas.
> > Transmissions were loud enough but clear hearing was the problem-- fixed
> by
> > using remote tune-able receivers. Practice was secret.
> >
> > -Lately, both transmit and receive were made remote. This has the obvious
> > benefit of being closer, louder, hearing better, etc., especially if
> > switching around to more than one remote station. You want Europe clear,
> > dial up a station that produces that; you want VK, dial up a different
> > station that wks gud into VK. Keep secret that you are using your call
> > sign in places outside of your call sign entity/nation.
> >
> > -Now, RemoteHamRadio company takes away the secret and provides some
> > control over practice described just above.
> >
> > -Immediately, as cited by Glenn, W0GJ, on K1N, somehow-- probably via a
> > remote station that will be loud to K1N--a loud call gets the K1N op's
> > attention, but then when the actual contact is made, the transmitted
> signal
> > is weaker. The suggestion is that a remote station is used to get the
> > partial or whole call sign acknowledged and then the actual contact goes
> on
> > from a much less effective station location. This must be secret, too?
> >
> > Remotes have overturned old fashioned ham radio to the point, like the
> > Internet, where anyone can appear to be anywhere with no trace of the
> > facts. Seems national borders are obsolete in the new ham radio.
>
>
>


-- 
Charly, HS0ZCW
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