I doubt it. N6TV may know if there are converters from Win-Test to CT
and back.
- Ken
Dan Z wrote:
> Ken,
> Thanks for that post. I've been a dyed-in-the-wool CT user since my first
> contest at W3LPL 15 years ago. I've been using CTWIN at home for years.
> Your somments about WIN-Test were very useful to me. I know it's a stretch,
> but I wonder if the file structures of the two programs are such that some of
> the CT utilities work with WIN-Test?
> 73,
> Dan
>
> Dan Zeitlin - K2YWE
> South Shore ARC - K3AU
> Annapolis, Maryland
> http://danzee.org
>
>
> --- On Mon, 5/17/10, Ken Wolff <ken@k1ea.com> wrote:
>
>
>> From: Ken Wolff <ken@k1ea.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ct-user] Is CT development dead?
>> To: "CT User" <ct-user@contesting.com>
>> Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 5:04 PM
>> I discussed this with N6TV at Dayton,
>> and yes CT development for DOS is
>> dead. I thought I had an old hard drive with DOS, the
>> complier and
>> libraries in the closet. None of them would boot DOS. I can
>> still
>> compile CTWin, although it won't run on my development
>> machine, Windows 7.
>>
>> K1AR and I still use CTWin for our multi-two efforts on a
>> couple of old
>> XP machines. It is possible, but not probable I could make
>> a new version
>> of CTWin if K1AR and I need something fixed. I keep the CT
>> website alive
>> as a convenience to existing users, or someone with old DOS
>> hardware who
>> wants to try CT. CT is free precisely because I want to
>> avoid any
>> obligation to fix bugs or add features.
>>
>> I have used Win-Test at K3LR and KL7RA. I recommend it to
>> anyone who
>> likes the CT command set and behavior..Win-Test accurately
>> emulates all
>> the CT features and adds its own feature set.
>>
>> I am not going to release the source code to the public
>> domain because
>> it is dense, obtuse code.. It requires an obsolete version
>> of the Watcom
>> compiler, the 4GW 32 bit dos extender and the commercial
>> PC/TCP package.
>> CT was the first C program I ever wrote in 1986. A few
>> years later I
>> converted it to C++ without a good understanding of object
>> oriented
>> concepts. This is "spaghetti code" and would be re-factored
>> by anyone
>> good enough to work on it. At least two programmers I know
>> and respect
>> took this code and tried to move forward. They both gave
>> up.
>>
>> 73, Ken K1EA
>>
>>
>> Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote:
>>
>>> I can't speak for Ken, but he's here in Dayton this
>>>
>> weekend. He said, half
>>
>>> jokingly, that he's not even sure if he still
>>>
>> remembers how to recompile the
>>
>>> program. If you're waiting for him to make
>>>
>> enhancements, well, don't hold
>>
>>> your breath.
>>>
>>> As far as releasing the source code, all I can say is
>>>
>> that I'm a
>>
>>> professional programmer, and I got a brief look at the
>>>
>> CT source code once.
>>
>>> Maintaining or porting all that C++ code it is not
>>>
>> going to be an easy task
>>
>>> for anyone. It's hard enough for Ken to do
>>>
>> it. It really tied to DOS and
>>
>>> it's not going to be easy to port it to Linux, MacOS,
>>>
>> or anything else.
>>
>>> Even the Windows version (CTWin) only runs in
>>>
>> "character mode."
>>
>>> By far the best solution for unhappy CT users is to
>>>
>> migrate to Win-Test,
>>
>>> since the interface is basically a copy of CT. I
>>>
>> used CT for years, but I'm
>>
>>> a 100% Win-Test user right now (except for most state
>>>
>> QSO parties, which
>>
>>> Win-Test does not support). I use N1MM in the
>>>
>> CQP, but Win-Test for
>>
>>> everything else.
>>>
>>> You can try the demo version of Win-Test for free:
>>>
>>> http://download.win-test.com/v4/demo/
>>>
>>> I'll be happy to answer any questions about Win-Test,
>>>
>> but please use the
>>
>>> Win-Test Reflector, not the CT Reflector. More
>>>
>> info on subscribing to the
>>
>>> Win-Test reflector may be found here:
>>>
>>> http://www.win-test.com/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=1720
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Bob, N6TV
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us>
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> * On 2010 13 May 11:39 -0500, Charles W. Shaw
>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Regarding
>>>>>
>> development, I would be perfectly happy if CT is just
>>
>>>>> kept current regarding changes necessitated by
>>>>>
>> contest rules and
>>
>>>>> entry requirements. I like it now and am
>>>>>
>> old and set in my ways I guess.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Charles,
>>>>
>>>> I agree and if there were periodic updates I would
>>>>
>> not have brought this
>>
>>>> up. Seeing as CT is going on 2 years without
>>>>
>> an update, time is passing
>>
>>>> it by. If the source code would be available
>>>>
>> *someone* would keep it
>>
>>>> alive or could pick it up whenever the mood
>>>>
>> struck.
>>
>>>> 73, de Nate >>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best
>>>>
>> of all
>>
>>>> possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is
>>>>
>> true."
>>
>>>> Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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