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Re: [RFI] Noise cancellers....

To: "David Harmon" <k6xyz@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Noise cancellers....
From: "Dale J." <dj2001x@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:09:17 -0500
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Dave, 

I've been looking at one of these.  Do you use it in conjunction as a noise 
antenna for a noise canceler or alone?  What if the signal you are trying to 
hear is in the null zone?  I assume you have a small rotor for it?

Dale, k9vuj


On 22, Mar 2014, at 11:22, "David Harmon" <k6xyz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Because these noise cancellers did not work very well for me and required
> constant fiddling I got a Pixel magnetic loop.
> These units have the ability to null out plasma noise as well as being
> non-responsive to power line type noise.
> It is a receive only antenna about 40" in diameter mounted on a 10' conduit
> in the yard.
> It is portable as well....I can disconnect the coax and walk away in 26
> seconds.
> It has a broad band amp at the loop and I use a 18db DXE amp under the desk
> to get the received signal equal to the main antenna.
> The directivity increases as the frequency goes up.
> It is expensive....$500 but if bought direct from Pixel it has a 30 day no
> questions asked money back guarantee if you are dissatisfied in any way.
> It is the difference between going permanently off the air or continuing to
> operate.
> I cannot stress how well this thing works.
> It took my 20/9 noise to S1.
> 
> 73
> 
> David Harmon
> K6XYZ
> Sperry, OK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Schatten
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 11:06 AM
> To: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Noise cancellers....
> 
> @Jim Brown..
> 
> What you say is of course true -- you can only kill one at a time. That
> said, you can often times choose your target, by adjusting the phasing.  
> Getting rid of the most offensive noise source will usually allow you to be
> reasonably operational again -- my goal.
> 
> If you use two antennas that are both capable of good tx performance, then
> you have an additional weapon: switching the two antennas around. 
> You can do this by installing a dpdt switch in the unit and doing a little
> rewiring.
> 
> The main PITA with cancellers is the time you spend getting the adjustments
> right.
> 
> Out Dammed Noise!
> 
> jerome - va7vv
> 
> 
> On 14-03-21 11:20 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> 
> 
> [...]
>> 
>> Note that ANY noise canceller can only work on noise arriving from one 
>> direction at a time. If you have multiple sources, you can kill only 
>> one of them at a time.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
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