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Subject: [SECC] US qso's
From: Kt4zb at aol.com (Kt4zb at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:55:46 EST
Hi all - Having worked a number of contests from NQ4I, the standard  
procedure has always been to log all contacts, points or not.  The fact  that 
there are 500 zero point q's in the log shows that the run stations do  just 
that.
 
When I'm working from Savannah and I need the US country of zone mult, I  
look for any of the loud known contesters and respond with my exchange  + 
"thanks for the mult"...  I also agree with when you are cqing and loud,  "its 
the cost of doing business.  I was adding VE's to the log one night  and for 
every VE I worked, I got three US stations, most of whom didn't know  what 
the contest was about, but just happy to work someone.  For  those, just 
explained the rules and encourged them to look for DX stations and  have fun.  
Maybe some will become casual contesters on a regular basis.  Noted lots of 
year 2000 and up folks during SS, so looks like there are some  newer calls 
active.
 
Best to all - Jere, KT4ZB
 
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I think in Rick's case 500 Qs is pushing 10%.

And for the record, I  don't think Rick and his guys are lids - unless they 
don't log zero-pointers...I  think he's as frustrated at working the 
zero-pointers as I am about losing a  mult because of not having a zero-point Q 
logged. And it's extremely frustrating  to have a pileup of S1 signals calling 
you from EU when you've got a couple  (especially slow!) loud zero-pointers 
calling you.  
--
Lee Hiers
"Have Dobro Will Travel"
....and traveling!  
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From: "Gregg W6IZT" <w6izt at bellsouth.net> 
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:27:59 -0500
To: 'Rick Dougherty NQ4I'<nq4i at contesting.com>; 'Hal  
Kennedy'<halken at comcast.net>
Cc: 'Courtney Judd K4WI'<k4wi at earthlink.net>;  
'ACG'<Contest at alabamacontestgroup.org>; 'SECC'<secc at contesting.com>;  
'Lee Hiers'<aa4ga at contesting.com>
Subject: RE: [SECC] US qso's



Over  500 zero point Qs, that is less than 1 percent. Not so bad, as others 
stated  they were mults for the other guy. I had close to 2% zero point Qs 
and I?m glad  to give out the mult. 
 
From:  secc-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:secc-bounces at contesting.com] 
On 
Behalf Of Rick Dougherty NQ4I
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:39  PM
To: Hal Kennedy
Cc: Courtney Judd K4WI; ACG; SECC; Lee  Hiers
Subject: Re: [SECC] US qso's
 
Hi All..I am going to disagree with some of you..we had over  500 zero 
point qso's in the log..at our average hourly rate of 160 per hour that  is 3 + 
hours that for all intensive purposes are wasted.....who knows how many  qrp 
and low power guys were calling and got frustrated and moved on because we  
had to work the loud W"s...just my 0.02 worth from here..do I think they 
will  change the rules..never...but it gets me that most of these zero 
pointers think  they are helping out! Duh!
 

 
de Rick NQ4I
 
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Hal Kennedy <_halken at comcast.net_ 
(mailto:halken at comcast.net) >  wrote: 
I could not agree more with Lee.  I won't mention the  call of the zone 5
station I worked that I was certain after listening  carefully to the way
the exchange was handled I was not in their log.  So I had to work
another one.  This happens a lot in this contest  for reasons Ill never
understand - why not log it if you took the time to  work it?

Hal N4GG 
 
 






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