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Re: [TenTec] Balanced Tuners

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Balanced Tuners
From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:00:59 -0400
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At 01:07 PM 7/11/03 -0500, you wrote:
I tend to agree with you, (at least I think your implicit point) that cores
on a coax length are an entirely adequate, economical and wide band solution
to blocking outside the shield reverse RF current, ie act as a balancing
device by prevention of incidental reflections.


Coincidentally, I had done some measurements, using an MFJ259B, on a solenoid choke (18 turns (closewound) of RG-8X on a 4 /2 inch piece of PVC pipe, versus 50 Type 73 beads on a length of 1/4" teflon coax.

The numbers were.... drumroll:

Solenoid
F (mhz)         Z (ohms)        Phase Angle (deg)

2               384             90
2.8             637             90
3-14            H (> 650)
16              579             90
18              510             90
20              423             90
24              293             90
25.9            210             42 (lowest magnitude measured)
27.4            324             90

Bead choke
F               Z               Phase
1.69-14         H
14.8            650             60
15              644             60
16              612             62
17              583             64
18              530             62
20              488             67
22              450             66
24              417             66

I suspect that the measurements above 20 MHz or so should probably be discredited, because my test rig had a pair of 16-inch clipleads in it, but the lower-frequency readings are interesting. A friend who is much more knowledgeable about the theory of such things says that it is clear that the bead choke is at least somewhat better as a common mode choke than the solenoid, particularly at low frequencies, but that the Phase Angle readings are a clear signal of much larger losses in the beads, hence the heating talked about in discussions of bead chokes encapsulated in foam material.

The MFJ is somewhat limited in this role, largely because it will not read impedances over 650 ohms. Maybe someone out there with a better piece of test gear could repeat (and correct) these measurements.

73, Pete N4ZR
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