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Re: [TenTec] best power supply for Orion II and other items

To: John Molenda <cdistflatfoot@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] best power supply for Orion II and other items
From: John Molenda <brazos@rochester.rr.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:55:27 -0500
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On 11/21/2010 7:52 PM, John Molenda wrote:


I was a bit caviler when describing the noise I had on the radio Last night , thinking it was not important part of the puzzle so here goes . I was getting a 20 to 40 over spike reading on the Orion II analog meter 1st on 40 and then I tryed 80, 160 and 10 with the same out come the needle would go back and fourth every couple of seconds from 20 to 40 over rhythmically and accompanying that was a loud rhythmic noise ( loud static ) coming over the speakers . when I first encountered this I went through the house with my son turning off everything electronic lights , dimmer switches , computers etc . when I finally came to trying the radio with a different power supply the interference went away and all was OK . I also for a time left the original power supply on and found that with the switch left in the on position and plugged in the supply would go on and off intermittently . Well /now you know the rest of the story . Paul Harvey


John Kb2huk
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On 11/21/2010 4:47 PM, Mike Hyder -N4NT- wrote:
The 35 amp linear Astron supplies used a floating output so they could be used with either positive or negative ground applications. For our use, the negative post of the Astron should be grounded to the unit's cabinet/chassis. I think the Astron supply is good but if the negative output post is not grounded to the cabinet/chassis then RF energy gets into the regulator circuitry...

Follows my correspondence with Astron some years ago:
Once upon a time some Astron power supplies had a floating output, neither positive nor negative was connected to the chassis. For laboratory work, this was just fine. But with radio transmitters, problems sometimes arose because RF energy could enter through the negative post and go directly to
the voltage regulator circuitry.

Astron became aware of this and suggested grounding the negative post to the chassis. I did it by taking the post out, removing the insulators, cleaning
paint from around the hole and reinstalling the post with no insulation.
Many reported they had never had a problem with their Astrons but I did and
apparently it was common.  Below is my correspondence with Astron:

     To:  "Ten-Tec Reflector" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: [TenTec] Astron Power Supply (RS-35) from the horse's mouth
     From:  "Mike Hyder -N4NT-" <Mike_N4NT@charter.net>
     Reply-to:  Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
     Date:  Tue, 5 Dec 2006 21:04:25 -0500
     List-post: <mailto:tentec@contesting.com>

[TenTec] Your semi-annual Astron tip...

People come and go from this reflector. This is a reminder that many
troubles with Astron power supplies can be cured by grounding the negative post to the cabinet. I did it by removing the insulators from the negative post, scraping some paint from around the hole and putting a lockwasher on the post when reinstalling. Below is my correspondence with them about it.

Merry Christmas,
Mike -N4NT-

----- Original Message -----
From: "ASTRON" <sales@astroncorp.com>
To: "Mike Hyder" <N4NT@chartertn.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: RS-35 in an RF environment

MIKE.

1ST CHECK YOUR AC OUTLET GROUND IT MUST HAVE GOOD CONNECTION

2ND. MEASURE FROM THE -13.8V TERMINAL TO CHASSIS, IF NO DIRECT CONNECTION,
RUN A PIECE OF WIRE FROM -13.8V TERMINAL TO CHASSIS.

JANE

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Hyder <N4NT@chartertn.net
To: <eastron@astroncorp.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:56 AM
Subject: RS-35 in an RF environment

Several people have advised me that Astron had a service bulletin for the Astron RS-35 (and possibly other models) which advised to strap the negative
post of the supply to the cabinet to reduce or eliminate problems caused
when RF energy affects the supply's regulation.  This is in particular a
frequent problem in the amateur radio service.

Could you confirm such bulletin and either email it to me or point me to the
URL that will allow me to view it, please?

Many thanks,
Mike Hyder

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Molenda" <cdistflatfoot@gmail.com>
To: "TEN TEC DISCUSSION" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:50 PM
Subject: [TenTec] best power supply for Orion II and other items


Hello , I have been having some trouble with rfi and strange impulse
noise on RX I have traced it down to a bad power supply .  I will be
replacing this power supply with another to power my Orion II and a
couple other items so a ps with a high amp rating of say 35 or so might
just be what I need .  Who makes the best ps I have been looking at the
alinco products and like them I have had trouble with astron but have
very good luck with Pyramid Ps.  any suggestions I am replacing a 963
for the curious . any suggestions ?  thanks John kb2huk
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