I think the difference is clear. Are you "just working the DX to work the
DX" or do you expect it to "count for contest points". For the straight DX
contact all you need is the call sign and concurrence on each end that the
contact was valid. Most contests however seem to require a completed
exchange. The SP exchange is very short (one piece of data) and doesn't even
require the RST that so many have made jokes about or questioned the need or
value of on this and the other reflectors. Other events like Sweepstakes
require a lot more. Should a SS QSO count if there is missing data like the
Check, or the Section or do we just look them up in a call sign data base or
via other sources and fill it in after the fact? Seems to me that the rules
are clear, the exchange is supposed to include the grid or it's not a valid
QSO, it still counts as DX, but not for SP points. The whole "massaging the
log after the test" thing has been covered on the Contest Reflector by the
Big Guns and lots of opinions stated pro and con. I was just asking a
question that again touches on when the contest ends and the ethics of
altering or enhancing logs after the official end of the contest. I'll go
back to lurking.
73
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-topband@contesting.com
[mailto:owner-topband@contesting.com]On Behalf Of John Mitchell
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 1998 05:31 PM
To: Patrick Dayshaw; 'jim funk'; topband@contesting.com
Subject: RE: TopBand: Grid Square Look up site?
What would Stew Perry decide?
Isn't the important thing working the DX? Or is it ensuring everyone knows
this obscure bit of data relating to their location?
Besides if you call CQ TEST and they reply, aren't they in the TEST???
K4IQ
At 16:38 12/27/98 -0800, Patrick Dayshaw wrote:
>
>
>Considering that the entire Stew Perry exchange IS the call plus "four
>character grid square" are these contacts even considered valid? Doesn't
>seem like they should be any more than a Sweepstakes exchange would be if
it
>was missing data. Seems like the contest should be run during the contest
>not after the fact, but of course that's up to the sponsor. (Sorry, just
>another one of those fools that actually reads and try's to abide by the
>rules.)
>
>Patrick
>WA7VNI
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-topband@contesting.com
>[mailto:owner-topband@contesting.com]On Behalf Of jim funk
>Sent: Sunday, December 27, 1998 03:22 PM
>To: topband@contesting.com
>Subject: TopBand: Grid Square Look up site?
>
>
>
>How do we handle those this year? Seems last year there was a way to score
>contacts with stations who didn't know their grids? My only one this time
>was a YV.... (only SA heard/worked).>
>
>73, Jim N9JF
>
>
> A
>>couple people called in during SP from Carib and SA who give cities but
>>didn't know their Grids.
>>
>>73,
>>John K4IQ
>>
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