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Re: Topband: K4M on TopBand

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Subject: Re: Topband: K4M on TopBand
From: Art <k6xt@arrl.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:25:30 -0600
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Except that K4M devoted much effort to, and did in fact work a number of 
west EU stations on topband. Someone tallied them up earlier. Do I 
recall 150+ QSO's? Surely FT5GA (which would have been new for me as 
well) had no such score with west US.

In fairness to FT5GA I have to say, never heard them. Barely ESP on 80M 
where I also didn't work them. K4M had the hardware, interest, and 
operators to be very visible worldwide on topband. For as long as the 
storms left their antenna standing.

73 Art

Garry Shapiro wrote:
> Well...the (on all bands) is the difference. Dave is complaining about 
> topband. Topband was not even on the table for western NA with FT5GA. 
> The Glorioso team essentially could not be bothered with western NA on 
> any band that did work.
>
> Garry, NI6T
>
>
>
> GERRY wrote:
>   
>> Dave,
>>
>> Simply replace K4M with FT5GA and Western EU with Western NA-same story (on 
>> all bands).
>>
>> Gerry VE6LB
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: G4GED Dave 
>>   To: topband@contesting.com 
>>   Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:49 PM
>>   Subject: Re: Topband: K4M on TopBand
>>
>>
>>   OK1RD wrote >>>
>>   > Dear Topbanders,
>>   > let me allow to express this way my admiration for excellent 160m band
>>   > operation of the K4M DXpediton on Midway Isle. >
>>
>>   Well I normally take my DXing bad luck quietly on-the-chin. However in this
>>   case I'm sorry but in contrast to the posting above I think it should be
>>   recorded here that the performance for Western Europe on LF was a very
>>   different and sad story.
>>
>>   It's not always understood that most  TB propagation between the Pacific 
>> and 
>>   W-EU is
>>   generally completely different than for the rest of EU.
>>   No consideration was allowed for the fact that on this far side of EU the
>>   only chance we had for propagation to the North Pacific was less than 1 
>> hour
>>   around our Sunrise.
>>
>>   On the 3 days they were active on TB around that time, no breaks were
>>   offered for EU and apart from one very lucky G and three GM Top Gun Dxers,
>>   most found it impossible to cut through the NA Wall.
>>   I see no TB QSOs at all for EI, F, EA and so on, in the on-line Logs.
>>   80m was a similar story.
>>
>>   On their last day on TB, 18th Oct. they had the best signal ever at our SR 
>>   (for over 30m at this QTH) but unbelievably they were working only the SP 
>>   Contest!
>>
>>   I don't denigh our NA cousins their shots at all but surely a listen at 
>> W-EU
>>   SR for less than an hour is not too much to ask when most NA has 
>> propagation 
>>   for 6 to 10 hours?
>>   Thankfully, most previous Pacific DXpeditions have managed to recognise 
>> this 
>>   and I hope
>>   this report will encourage more future ones to do the same.
>>
>>   So, sorry guys but  K4M was a very frustrating damp squid on LF for most of
>>   us in this neck of the woods.
>>
>>   I stand by to be shot down :-(
>>   73
>>   Dave
>>
>>     
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