I stand behind my "criticism" of Mr. Brown's "treatment" of a fellow, foreign
ham!
I received numerous private e-mails thanking me for stating the obvious (the
kindest comment made about him was his arrogance, the remainder describe him
pointedly more acerbic, etc.) AND stating they had written the reflector
manager to post their displeasure re his reply to that SP ham who asked an
innocent question.
Being eccentric while verbally or, in writing, looking down one's nose at
someone are mutually exclusive "actions" --- i.e., one does not beget the
other.......except in the case of K9YC!
One is correct when one states, "You can personally filter-out or just neglect
content from those you
consider less relevant in your in-box." That works for me, one of many "outside
viewers/readers".........it does NOT work for the offended person, in this case
the SP ham, who asked an innocent query and, then, got taken to the "verbal
wood shed" -------- save your protestation-type indignations for some other
forum....I doubt if you'll find much empathy or sympathy here...especially if
the call sign K9YC is introduced in to the discussion early on!
71.5/72 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV
P.S. I don't care one wit what latest "award" Mr. Brown garnered lately
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From: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 11:37 AM
To: 'Mark van Wijk'; 'James Rodenkirch'; 'Top Band Contesting'
Subject: RE: Topband: VK0EK confirmation
>From time to time there are those on this list who believe that the regular
lynching of a member is required. These lynchers and SJW decided it was K9YC
s turn to be lynched because of his free speech. More signs of 'gentlemen's
band' decay.
Doug
I wasn't born in Saskatchewan, but I got here as soon as I could.
-----Original Message-----
Jim,
This "referee" should act only if people start calling each other names or
call
for a public crucifiction or such.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and response.
You can personally filter-out or just neglect content from those you
consider
less relevant in your in-box.
On a forum like this there will always be the eccentrics, those who are at
the
'edge of the spectrum'.
Sure those are different from the general bubble, sometimes "lack tact" and
because of their nature, are not capable of submitting a "good natured
reply" as
you correctly named it.
Diplomacy is (scientifically) counter effective in their view. And some
shoot at
everything.
And like Einstein, they are arguably not your cute looking next neighbor.
But very much like K9YC, from time to time they also share empirical
knowledge,
something which is a lot more useful than just repeating theoretic content
from
other writers books.
Also there one can argue to some extent, based on personal other results/
experiences on the topic and still be free to continue thinking otherwise.
The eccentrics (sometimes called Gurus) in our hobby offer plenty of
knowledge
on their websites too. We use that to read, try and learn by doing. Maybe to
find the content offers the same result at our QTH, maybe not.
I cannot imagine we would want to avoid the K9YC's of this world.
I hope they continue their act.
I also often skip their, and other peoples' content if I think it is not
relevant to me.
73
Mark, PA5MW
> Op 18 april 2016 om 20:35 schreef James Rodenkirch
<Rodenkirch_LLC@msn.com>:
>
> I don't know who the "referee" is for this august reflector.....BUT, read
> below, puleeeeeez,
>
> by doing the following:
>
> - find every spot where I annotated K9YC's acerbic and uncalled for
replies to
> SP6EQZ's initial
> post by inserting "K9YC replied"
>
> - label K9YC as an "ugly American" and, PULEEEEEZ, put him, FINALLY, on
notice
> to "clean up his act"
> or disappear into the internet ether......
>
> - send a personal e-mail to SP6EQZ and apologize for this exhibited
boorish
> behavior...PULEEEEZ!!!
>
> How embarrassing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sheesh....
>
> Aside note: I got pissed off enuff at K9YC for his acerbic replies to
several
> past posts of mine.....and
>
> enjoyed reading several private e-mails from other subscribers regarding
his
> lack of tact and ability
>
> to submit a "good natured reply," vice the caustic, unfriendly notes he's
> noted for. BUT, this latest edition
>
> makes his forays into my "backyard" pale by comparison!!
>
> Run this dood out of town if it keeps up!!
>
> 72 de Jim R. K9JWV
>
> On Mon,4/18/2016 2:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG wrote:
>
> Courtesy of my friend Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10 for
> VK0EK.
>
> K9YC replied: Sounds like you're one of the last of the big spenders!
>
> To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
> I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
> Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does not
> work, can I do something wrong?.
>
> K9YC replied: Did you not read the VK0EK website? Early LOTW confirmations
> would be sent to those who contributed BEFORE the expedition began. Like
you,
> I waited until I had worked them on the boat on their way to Heard to send
> them $300. That's much more than I usually contribute to DX trips, but
this
> was a VERY expensive one. I sent a check, and got a nice thank you note
from
> KK6EK's XYL. She said I'll get my LOTW when Bob returns home.
>
> I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
> https://shop.vk0ek.org/
>
>
[https://shop.vk0ek.org/assets/HD_Mug_logo_GIF_512.gif]<https://shop.vk0ek.o
rg/>
>
> VK0EK Shop - VK0EK OQRS page<https://shop.vk0ek.org/>
> shop.vk0ek.org
> Bringing this expedition to reality has been a huge effort, extending over
3
> years. Besides the 14 men who travelled to Heard Island to operate the
radios,
> carry out ...
>
> K9YC replied: It would be good for you to again make a contribution,
> increasing the size of your support. This was a VERY costly expedition.
>
> Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 160
m
> what gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.
>
> The way to say thank you is to send more money. :)
>
> K9YC replied: European hams got 52.5% of VK0EK QSOs, NA got 19.4%. EU got
> 2,372 Topband Q's, NA got 293 (I got one of them). Many NA hams who DO
> contribute to these trips are getting more than a bit tired of hearing EU
> stations complaining about DXpeditions not working them but not sending
money
> to support the costs. Most NA hams are retired, so when we send money it
is
> from our savings or our pensions. Here's a partial list of the guys who
paid
> for your QSO.
>
> https://vk0ek.org/sponsors-3/
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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