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[Towertalk] Re: RE: 40M 4 Sq vs. 2 el Yagi at 70 ft

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Subject: [Towertalk] Re: RE: 40M 4 Sq vs. 2 el Yagi at 70 ft
From: sm2ekm@telia.com (Jan Erik Holm)
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 20:47:27 +0200
If you get the Yagi at 1/2 wl or more it will beat the heck
out of the 4SQ, even a dipole at 1/2 wl will beat the 4SQ
with about 2 dB.
I have a 4SQ (about 160 radials) and a 3 el Yagi at 90 ft ,
yagi is always 10 dB or more better.
If you look in EZNEC a 4SQ will give around 5 dBi, lets say
you have 4 dBi after you subtract losses in the near field.  My
3 el Yagi gives 12.6 in EZNEC so that gives 8.6 in favour of
the Yagi, real life says 10 dB or more but thats with QSB
and a non calibrated s-meter.
Think a 40CD-2 gives about 10 dBi so I would say the small
40 Yagi would take the 4SQ by 6 dB atleast.

73 Jim SM2EKM
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Kurt Andress wrote:

>>Wes Cosand wrote:
>>Has someone done a careful comparison of these two antennas for 
>>    
>>
>40 meters?
>
>Hi Wes,
>I have had a 40m 4 sq with Comtek box and 240 radials for 3 years and it works
>very well.
>
>Yesterday, I put a 40-2CD up at 50' on an AB577 and A/B'd the heck out of it to
>US, EU, JA, & ZL.
>The beam and 4 sq are about even on many stateside signals, the farther
>stateside signals are 5-10 db better on the beam.
>The beam is about 10db better on almost all dx. An SM reported the beam 15 over
>S9, when the 4sq was S9. I purposely sought out very weak EU and JA signals, 
>and
>found many that could be heard but not copied on the 4sq, but were copied on 
>the
>beam.
>
>That's just one night's comparison, but I think you'd rather have the beam @
>70', I know I would. Maybe someday. 
>Having both is really neat for picking up signals from all over the place.
>I noticed frequently that the QSB swings were less on the beam.
>
>I think WC1M did the same thing and liked the beam.
>
>Have fun with the new project.
>
>  
>




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