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RE: [TowerTalk] Operating in Canada

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Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Operating in Canada
From: "Dave Cook" <davec@netdave.com>
Reply-to: davec@netdave.com
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 19:38:23 -0700
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
I don't mean to beat a dead horse on this, but since I've been receiving
some differing suggestions on this, I finally rolled up my sleeves and
started looking at some of the info links that have been posted on this
subject.

I was really looking for a short and sweet answer on this, but there have
been suggestions that I must obtain an IARP (International Amateur Radio
Permit). The only source of information on how to obtain this that I've
found so far is to submit a bunch of paperwork to the ARRL along with a $10
bill (or $20 for expedited service). My first reaction to this is that is
smacks a bit of the ARRL's license renewal service, where you can give them
some money to renew your license for you. This bothers me because I just
renewed my license this year for free on the FCC's Web site.

The other issue is, is an IARP *really* necessary to operate in Canada, or
is it just a convenience for operating in any CITEL country. According to
this <http://www.rac.ca/regulatory/rcip.htm>, it's not. Furthermore, I wound
up at the Industry Canada Web site and found "RIC-3 - Information on the
Amateur Radio Service",  Section 5.1 titled "Convention between Canada and
the United States of America". To quote,

"Visiting amateurs are not required to register or receive a permit before
operating their amateur radio stations.

Each amateur station shall indicate at least once during each contact with
another station its geographical location as nearly as possible by city and
state or city and province.

The amateur station shall be operated in accordance with the laws and
regulations of the country in which the station is temporarily located."

It goes on further, here's the URL if you're interested:
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/insmt-gst.nsf/en/sf01777e.html#conve
ntion

I think this pretty well sums it up for me. I may go ahead and apply for an
IARP if I can do it without the ARRL's "assistance", i.e. directly through
the FCC myself. But it sure appears to me that an IARP is not required for
temporary operation in Canada. Since my trip is coming up in just a couple
of weeks, it seems unlikely that all the paperwork for an IARP would get
through the system anyway.

My apologies for this totally off-topic discussion. But I hope this helps
some other folks who are interested in this information.

73, Dave, WA0TTN

> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dave Cook
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 8:30 PM
> To: 'Tower Talk'
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Operating in Canada
>
>
> My apologies for this totally off-topic question, but I have
> no idea where
> to ask. I don't mean to impose on the group for this
> question, so please
> point me to the best place to find the answer.
>
> I'm going to be in Canada for a week vacation in a couple of
> weeks and I've
> never taken a radio up there before. I was wondering what the
> reciprocal
> regulations are for an American are. Am I allowed to operate
> normally, or do
> I need to obtain permission from the Canadian government?
> Yes, I know I'm
> supposed to know this stuff, but I just can't remember where
> and how to find
> out the current procedures.
>
> Thanks for any pointers/information.
>
> 73, Dave, WA0TTN
>
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