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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Idiom Press
From: "Gary Stone" <n5phtgs@gmail.com>
Reply-to: n5pht@arrl.net
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:58:26 -0500
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Greetings,

Rob has left me very frustrated. When he did finally answer a phone call
(once out of 20 calls) he promised to send me a EZ-Rotator - nothing in
weeks.  Very disappointing. He did mention he had orders from the military
so that may be the answer.

Anyone have a EZ-Rotator mod for sale?  I have a Ham IV and  TX-2 and would
love the mod.

Gary, N5PHT


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>   1. Re: Beware Idiom Press (Scott MacKenzie)
>   2.  Beware Idiom Press (Dick Hanson)
>   3. CDE rotator box (wb5aaa)
>   4. Re: CDE rotator box (N7KA@comcast.net)
>   5. Linear loaded KE4UYP vertical (Marinus Loewensteijn)
>   6. Re: Orion for Sale.... (K7LXC@aol.com)
>   7. 10/15/20 M yagi and 12/17 M yagi minimum stacking distance on
>      a common mast (rwhitetexas@verizon.net)
>   8. Re: Beware Idiom Press (bill rubin)
>   9. Re: Linear loaded KE4UYP vertical (K4SAV)
>  10. Re: Linear loaded KE4UYP vertical (Robert Morris)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:45:15 -0400
> From: "Scott MacKenzie" <kb0fhp@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Beware Idiom Press
> To: "'Doug Renwick'" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>,       "'Rob Locher W7GH'"
>        <rob@idiompress.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <20080724214518.1847B1B607ED@dayton.contesting.com>
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> One month is too short a time.  Give him at least 3 months to turn things
> around.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:57 PM
> To: 'Rob Locher W7GH'; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Beware Idiom Press
>
> Has anyone noticed an improvement with this company since Rob's email of
> July 3, 2008?  Comments posted on eham and my experience indicate no
> improvement.  Anybody have comments?
>
> Doug
>
> Greetings all,
>
> This is Rob, W7GH from Idiom Press.  I took over the day-to-day running of
> the business from my father Bob W9KNI several months ago.
>
> I've made several rookie mistakes in running Idiom Press.  I made the
> mistake of not having enough inventory at Dayton this year, and I've been
> dealing with a backlog ever since.  I've been working like crazy to catch
> up, and I should be caught up by the end of next week.
>
> I realize that I've been difficult to reach lately, and I apologize to all
> the people whom I've inconvenienced.  Once I'm caught up, then customer
>
> service will be much more prompt.  In the meantime I'm doing the best that
> I
> can.
>
> 73,
> - Rob W7GH
> Partner
> Idiom Press
> http://www.idiompress.com/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:56:41 -0500
> From: "Dick Hanson" <dick@dkhanson.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk]  Beware Idiom Press
> To: "'Doug Renwick'" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>,       "'Rob Locher W7GH'"
>        <rob@idiompress.com>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <000c01c8edd8$27f3d830$77db8890$@com>
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>
> All,
> I purchased a C4 keyer just after Dayton. I mentioned that I needed it for
> a
> dxpedition to CY0X at the end of June.
> No problem getting the product, on time, and of course, it worked great.
> Most new ventures/turnarounds/successions in mgmt take a few months to sort
> out.
> 73
> Dick, K5AND/CY0X team
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Scott MacKenzie
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:45 PM
> To: 'Doug Renwick'; 'Rob Locher W7GH'; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Beware Idiom Press
>
> One month is too short a time.  Give him at least 3 months to turn things
> around.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:57 PM
> To: 'Rob Locher W7GH'; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Beware Idiom Press
>
> Has anyone noticed an improvement with this company since Rob's email of
> July 3, 2008?  Comments posted on eham and my experience indicate no
> improvement.  Anybody have comments?
>
> Doug
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:02:49 -0500
> From: "wb5aaa" <wb5aaa@alltel.net>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] CDE rotator box
> To: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <001f01c8edd9$031c4690$6601a8c0@JIMLAP>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="US-ASCII"
>
> I have an old CDE rotator and the control box
> Is the one with the 3 buttons on the front
> Left, brake release, right
>
> I would like to know what model bulb to use
> That lights up the meter?
>
> Thanks
> 73 de Jim
> WB5AAA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:02:19 +0000
> From: N7KA@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] CDE rotator box
> To: "wb5aaa" <wb5aaa@alltel.net>, <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <
> 072420082302.3165.488909FB000E5A9000000C5D2215561264BEB5C9B2@comcast.net>
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>
> Should use a 28V   T-3 1/4 bayonet style lamp. I found a package of  2ea
> 1819 lamps at Radio Shack store just a few days ago, $1.79.  This lamp is
> rated at 40ma.
>
> Arne N7KA
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "wb5aaa" <wb5aaa@alltel.net>
>
> > I have an old CDE rotator and the control box
> > Is the one with the 3 buttons on the front
> > Left, brake release, right
> >
> > I would like to know what model bulb to use
> > That lights up the meter?
> >
> > Thanks
> > 73 de Jim
> > WB5AAA
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:04:59 +0800
> From: Marinus Loewensteijn <zl2ml@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Linear loaded KE4UYP vertical
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY143-W53E9085DE23D7E9C8C0F8EEA870@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Long time lurker here but I have a question that I do not seem to be able
> to answer satisfactory.
>
> At the moment I have 44 foot doublet up for 80 and 40 and am wanting to
> move away from a balanced feeder to coax. I am thinking of putting a scaled
> version of the above antenna up for 40 first before 80m.
>
> If it is totally a disaster then I may put up a rotatable dipole lke the
> Cushcraft D40 or Hy-gain Discoverer 7-1.
>
> Due to size restrictions and to the location of TV satelite dishes of both
> myself and close neighbours I cannot put up anything larger than this.
>
> I wonder if any of the TowerTalkatonians has opinions or experience with
> this antenna. ( 
> members.tripod.com/~KE4UYP/80m_160m_Antenna.html<http://members.tripod.com/%7EKE4UYP/80m_160m_Antenna.html>
> )
>
> Many thanks in advance, 73 Marinus ZL2ML ..
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:02:05 EDT
> From: K7LXC@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Orion for Sale....
> To: towertalk@contesting.com, fraz1@bellsouth.netom
> Message-ID: <c39.38a6a4d3.35ba8e1d@aol.com>
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>
> In a message dated 7/24/2008 2:45:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> towertalk-request@contesting.com writes:
>
> >  As new condition (really!), with factory ATU.  Just  returned from TT
> with
> all hardware and version 2 upgrades.  Non-smoker.  2150......original Orion
> w/ATU.
>
>    Ah, I thought you were going to sell an Orion  rotator. Unfortunately
> you
> posted this to the wrong reflector. OTOH thoughtful  posts on tower and HF
> antenna construction projects are always welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve      K7LXC
> TT ADMIN
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:22:04 -0500
> From: <rwhitetexas@verizon.net>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] 10/15/20 M yagi and 12/17 M yagi minimum stacking
>        distance on a common mast
> To: "towertalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <015e01c8edfd$3ee80140$6400a8c0@RogersComputer>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I have a CL-33 (18 ft. boom weighing 42 lbs.) up on a HDX555 and want to
> stack on the same mast a 12/17 meter 3 element yagi above it. The 12/17
> meter yagi is a Cushcraft A3WS with a 12 ft. boom weighing 23 lbs. I would
> like to know the minimum distance I can mount the 12/17 yagi above the CL-33
> before I start to adversely degrade the performance of both yagis. I am not
> looking for peak overall performance, but do not want to have a situation of
> too small a distance that will adversely effect both yagis performance. My
> two favorite bands of interest are 15 and 20 meters once the sun spots
> cooperate in a few years.
>
> Is 1/2 the boom length of the higher freq antenna (12/2 = 6 ft. ) the
> correct distance? I want to minimize the length (weight) of the steel mast
> on top of the tower, so if I can have a shorter distance than 6 ft. between
> the yagis and still have reasonable gain, then I would go with a shorter
> distance.
>
> For a 6 ft. distance between the yagis, the mast would be 10 feet
> approximately (with 4 ft. from rotator to top of tower). That is about the
> most I want on top. I usually leave the tower at 50 ft. high to have more
> overlap than what it would have at 55 ft., thus giving me a little more
> safety margin to handle the high winds we have in our North Texas
> thunderstorms.
>
> Roger W5RD
> Murphy, Texas
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:22:54 -0500
> From: "bill rubin" <brubin2010@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Beware Idiom Press
> To: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com, Rob Locher W7GH <rob@idiompress.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <d9e07d00807241922ved156c1vf86aba62b3a6505d@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hey Guys. I have a rotor controller from Idiom at its a great product.
>  Stop
> complaining and be thankful these guys are in business.  You know how hard
> it is to run a small business, costs keep rising but you are unable to
> raise
> your prices.  There is always someone who wants to beat you my price and
> you
> loose business because people can only see the $$ and not the quality.  How
> about the long hours without pay ?  So please  give them a break.
>
> 73 Bill N1HWC
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone noticed an improvement with this company since Rob's email of
> > July 3, 2008?  Comments posted on eham and my experience indicate no
> > improvement.  Anybody have comments?
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > This is Rob, W7GH from Idiom Press.  I took over the day-to-day running
> > of
> > the business from my father Bob W9KNI several months ago.
> >
> > I've made several rookie mistakes in running Idiom Press.  I made the
> > mistake of not having enough inventory at Dayton this year, and I've
> > been
> > dealing with a backlog ever since.  I've been working like crazy to
> > catch
> > up, and I should be caught up by the end of next week.
> >
> > I realize that I've been difficult to reach lately, and I apologize to
> > all
> > the people whom I've inconvenienced.  Once I'm caught up, then customer
> >
> > service will be much more prompt.  In the meantime I'm doing the best
> > that
> > I can.
> >
> > 73,
> > - Rob W7GH
> > Partner
> > Idiom Press
> > http://www.idiompress.com/
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TowerTalk mailing list
> > TowerTalk@contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:26:19 -0500
> From: K4SAV <RadioIR@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Linear loaded KE4UYP vertical
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <488947DB.7010802@charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Don't believe everything you read in print.  I just modeled an 80 meter
> version of that antenna, using the recommended dimensions, top wire at
> 31 ft and 65 ft long, with 82 ft of wire in the vertical portion with
> the bottom wire 5 ft above ground.
>
> It resonated at 3.69 MHz with an impedance of 26 ohms.  He claims the
> longer wire on the vertical side off-center feeds the antenna and raises
> the impedance to 50 ohms.  Didn't work for me.  If you matched the
> antenna to 25 ohms the 2 to 1 SWR bandwidth would be about 70 KHz.  (He
> claims 300 KHz).   The gain is 2.9 dBi straight up.  (He claims 1 dBi.)
> 2.9 dBi is about the same as an 80 meter dipole at 18.5 feet.  He claims
> it is 80 to 85% efficient.  EZNEC calculates 4.13 dB loss.  That's
> equivalent to 38.6% efficiency.   He claims it is totally
> omni-directional.  At 30 degrees elevation it has a F/B of 3.6 dB.
>
> I didn't include the feedline or any metal support poles in the model.
>
> I didn't do the 160 meter version, but I would expect much poorer numbers.
>
> Jerry, K4SAV
>
> Marinus Loewensteijn wrote:
>
> >Long time lurker here but I have a question that I do not seem to be able
> to answer satisfactory.
> >
> >At the moment I have 44 foot doublet up for 80 and 40 and am wanting to
> move away from a balanced feeder to coax. I am thinking of putting a scaled
> version of the above antenna up for 40 first before 80m.
> >
> >If it is totally a disaster then I may put up a rotatable dipole lke the
> Cushcraft D40 or Hy-gain Discoverer 7-1.
> >
> >Due to size restrictions and to the location of TV satelite dishes of both
> myself and close neighbours I cannot put up anything larger than this.
> >
> >I wonder if any of the TowerTalkatonians has opinions or experience with
> this antenna. ( 
> members.tripod.com/~KE4UYP/80m_160m_Antenna.html<http://members.tripod.com/%7EKE4UYP/80m_160m_Antenna.html>
> )
> >
> >Many thanks in advance, 73 Marinus ZL2ML ..
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:57:13 -0400
> From: Robert Morris <robrk@nidhog.net>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Linear loaded KE4UYP vertical
> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <48894F19.8070304@nidhog.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I got confused with a vertical antenna and "Totally Omnidirectional
> pattern of high wave angle horzontally polarized Radiation"
>
> K4SAV wrote:
> > Don't believe everything you read in print.  I just modeled an 80 meter
> > version of that antenna, using the recommended dimensions, top wire at
> > 31 ft and 65 ft long, with 82 ft of wire in the vertical portion with
> > the bottom wire 5 ft above ground.
> >
> > It resonated at 3.69 MHz with an impedance of 26 ohms.  He claims the
> > longer wire on the vertical side off-center feeds the antenna and raises
> > the impedance to 50 ohms.  Didn't work for me.  If you matched the
> > antenna to 25 ohms the 2 to 1 SWR bandwidth would be about 70 KHz.  (He
> > claims 300 KHz).   The gain is 2.9 dBi straight up.  (He claims 1 dBi.)
> > 2.9 dBi is about the same as an 80 meter dipole at 18.5 feet.  He claims
> > it is 80 to 85% efficient.  EZNEC calculates 4.13 dB loss.  That's
> > equivalent to 38.6% efficiency.   He claims it is totally
> > omni-directional.  At 30 degrees elevation it has a F/B of 3.6 dB.
> >
> > I didn't include the feedline or any metal support poles in the model.
> >
> > I didn't do the 160 meter version, but I would expect much poorer
> numbers.
> >
> > Jerry, K4SAV
> >
> > Marinus Loewensteijn wrote:
> >
> >> Long time lurker here but I have a question that I do not seem to be
> able to answer satisfactory.
> >>
> >> At the moment I have 44 foot doublet up for 80 and 40 and am wanting to
> move away from a balanced feeder to coax. I am thinking of putting a scaled
> version of the above antenna up for 40 first before 80m.
> >>
> >> If it is totally a disaster then I may put up a rotatable dipole lke the
> Cushcraft D40 or Hy-gain Discoverer 7-1.
> >>
> >> Due to size restrictions and to the location of TV satelite dishes of
> both myself and close neighbours I cannot put up anything larger than this.
> >>
> >> I wonder if any of the TowerTalkatonians has opinions or experience with
> this antenna. ( 
> members.tripod.com/~KE4UYP/80m_160m_Antenna.html<http://members.tripod.com/%7EKE4UYP/80m_160m_Antenna.html>
> )
> >>
> >> Many thanks in advance, 73 Marinus ZL2ML ..
> >>
> >>
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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