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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower Permitting
From: Richard Solomon <w1ksz@q.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:57:56 -0700
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And here, all these years, I thought most of those regulations came
about as the result of someone trying to cut corners and produce an
inferior product.
"One-Nail Noonan" always comes to mind. Does anyone remember the
Vandenberg Shuttle Facility debacle ??


73, Dick, W1KSZ

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[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:01 AM
To: Wilson Lamb
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower Permitting




Guess you skipped your high school civics and economics classes.

Sorry to have to tell you this, but virtually all of those regulations
and codes you mention in your tirade were not the direct result of any
elected politician.  They instead originate from mostly independent
entities, many of them commercial, whose job it is to come up with rules
and guidelines to minimize liability issues and insurance exposure.
Cities are chartered to protect their citizens and if they do that
poorly or negligently they can be held accountable in court.  Insurance
companies don't want people building unsafe or unreliable homes because
they don't want to be paying out unnecessary claims.

Do all of those restrictions make sense?  Probably not ... private
bureaucracies are just as onerous (well, almost) as government
bureaucracies ... but I'll bet knowledgeable people could link every one
of those restrictions ultimately to either a perceived liability or cost
issue.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 9/25/2010 7:57 AM, Wilson Lamb wrote:
> We need to direct our energy to electing and leaning on politicians
instead
> of talking abut how hard it is to get permits.  As long as we elect people
> who are dedicated to meddling in our lives, we will have these problems,
and
> many others!
>
> When I built my house, for me to live in, I was told how many electrical
> outlets I had to have and how they had to be spaced along the wall!  I was
> also told how much Romex had to be left hanging out of the boxes before
the
> receptacles were installed!  Of course there were MANY similar
requirements.
>
> If your tower cannot fall on anyone else's property or on a power line, it
> should not be abyone else's concern!  If everyone keeps rolling over for
> these people, we will eventually be paralyzed completely.
>
> As long as there are hundreds of people hired to write codes, they will
> continue to make them more restrictive.  What else can they do to justify
> their existence?  And as long as the codes are there, thousands more
people
> will be hired to enforce them and those people will bother us.  What else
> can they do to justify their salaries?
>
> We need a basic safety code, because many do it yourselfers are clueless
and
> many contractors are without conscience, but it should be basic and no
more.
>
> And don't depend on codes, even though they are now many hundreds of pages
> long, so long that there are architects who do little but consult on
meeting
> them.  Look what they get us...poison drywall and my friends furnace
vented
> into his ducts and his family's fingernails all turned blue from carbon
> monoxide!
>
> OK, my rant is finished, although much abbreviated.
>
> 73,
> Wilson
> W4BOH
>
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