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Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio

To: Gene Smar <ersmar@verizon.net>, Mike <noddy1211@comcast.net>, 'K8RI' <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>, "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio
From: Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 20:34:00 -0400
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They're not selling communications, they're selling access to stations.  What 
you communicate is under your control and is subject to 97.113.  Selling or 
renting equipment or access to the same is not communications.

As a reduction ad absurdum, if renting a station is illegal under 97.113 so 
must be selling one.  

Al


-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gene Smar
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Mike; 'K8RI'; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio

TT:

     When a local posting on this showed up here a few months ago, I protested 
that this service can't be legal.  See below, especially
97.113(a)(2) and (3):

"Sec. 97.113 Prohibited transmissions

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"(a) No amateur station shall transmit:
"(1) Communications specifically prohibited elsewhere in this part;

"(2) Communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect, 
paid or promised, except as otherwise provided in these rules;

"(3) Communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a 
pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf of an employer, with the 
following exceptions: ...."

     The exceptions are concerned with for-sale adverts on the air if this 
isn't the operator's line of work and a few others.

     IMHO, the station licensee leasing time on his super station for this 
purpose is in violation of this Section of the Rules.  But that's just me.

73 de

Gene Smar  AD3F

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <noddy1211@comcast.net>
To: "'K8RI'" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio


> Nope this is the USA monetary gain Trumps ethics:-)
>
> Seriously I think that rule applies to advertising.
>
> Mike/K6BR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> K8RI
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 4:22 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio
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> On 8/2/2013 3:39 PM, Jim W7RY wrote:
>> At very impressive (high) prices!
>> 73
>> Jim W7RY
>
> Isn't it against the rules to make money or receive reimbursement for the
> use of an Amateur Radio station?
>
> 73
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>
>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: K7LXC@aol.com Sent: Friday, August
>> 02,
>> 2013 9:39 AM To: towertalk@contesting.com Subject: [TowerTalk] Remote
>> Ham Radio Greetings, TowerTalkians --
>>
>>     I'm not sure how I missed it but here is a new  service for hams.
>> It's a time-share of ham radio stations of some clout. Check  it out
>> at http://www.remotehamradio.com/.
>>     Some impressive stations are available for your  use.
>> Cheers,
>> Steve    K7LXC
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