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Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrites 31 vs. 77 material

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrites 31 vs. 77 material
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:16:32 -0700
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Isn't most JA ham gear Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu made in China these days?  Maybe assembled in JA?

On 11/5/2019 10:52 AM, David Gilbert wrote:

You could make the same generalizations about U.S. quality if you didn't ignore companies like MFJ or some of the antenna manufacturers that can't seem to put all the required parts in the box.

Certainly there are Chinese companies cut every corner possible and put out trash to achieve lowest possible cost, but I still say that's a poor generalization that is rapidly changing and becomes less and less valid every year.  The ones who are trying to compete globally do a much better job of it ... better in many cases than their American counterparts.  What do you think the K4 would look like if Elecraft outsourced the manufacturing to MFJ (a company that like many Chinese companies designs and manufactures to hit a price point imposed by the market)?  I doubt you would even be willing to buy one.

Here is a more objective look at reality:

https://www.intouch-quality.com/blog/youre-wrong-chinese-factories-dont-only-make-poor-quality-products

Dave   AB7E


On 11/5/2019 5:21 AM, Rob Atkinson wrote:
My gripe is that simply bashing anything made in China is decades out of date and a bad generalization.
Gripe all you want but you've used a few examples to try to refute a
generalization that has basis in fact.   There are far too many cases
of poor products from outside US and Europe, not just China, that
disagree with your belief.

Chinese vacuum tube production is all over the place--some are great;
others flash over.  Consumer products missing RFI suppression
components, and then there's steel quality which has been known to be
life threatening when used in critical structural applications. US
Gov't procurement has a whole course on how to spot knockoff hardware.
Would you go up a tower made in China with Chinese ceramic insulators?
  (This is Towertalk after all.)  On the other hand, smartphones from
off shore seem to have no issues.    Obviously, when manufacturers
enforce QC and micromanage the process, things go well.
Otherwise.....cheap ham handy talkies for $20 are the result.

I never knew anything about the QC variations in ferrite until K9YC
mentioned it.

73
Rob
K5UJ
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