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Re: [TowerTalk] JK Mid Tri opinions

To: Jeff Blaine <KeepWalking188@ac0c.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] JK Mid Tri opinions
From: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 22:38:33 -0600
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No, I do not have the 40 meter version. (Alas, no room.)

73,
Scott K9MA 

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Scott Ellington

 --- via iPad

> On Dec 22, 2019, at 9:28 PM, Jeff Blaine <KeepWalking188@ac0c.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you talking about the 40m performance?  A local here K3PA has a mid-tri 
> and has much better F/B on the higher bands but the 40m is as you say, in the 
> 10-15 range - but that's to be expected from a conventional 2-element.
> 
> 73/jeff/ac0c
> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
> www.ac0c.com
> 
> 
>> On 12/22/19 9:00 PM, K9MA wrote:
>> I’m not sure the trade off of f/b for forward gain was deliberate, as the 
>> published model results show higher f/b. I am pretty sure my measurements 
>> are good. I did them with two other stations, one about 20 miles away and 
>> another 250 feet from my antenna. Both used horizontally polarized beams. 
>> Results were very close, and consistent with my operating experience.
>> 
>> I can’t measure gain, of course, but the pattern looked reasonable, so I’m 
>> not concerned about the f/b. It even helps sometimes, as in this area your 
>> beam is usually pointed the wrong way.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Scott K9MA
>> 
>> 
>> ----------
>> 
>> Scott Ellington
>> 
>>  --- via iPad
>> 
>>>> On Dec 22, 2019, at 8:18 PM, Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> 
>>> That sounds good Scott.  I remember asking Tom, N6BT, one time about the 
>>> forward gain vs f/b on his Force 12 Yagis and
>>> as I understood it he tended to scrifice a little f/b to optomize the 
>>> forward gain.   Thats fine with me.
>>> 
>>> I have a JK 402 up now and am very happy with the JK construction.  I'm 
>>> sure the Mid-Tri will be good also mechanically.
>>> 
>>> thanks for the info
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> K6UJ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 22, 2019, at 6:07 PM, K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I put one up last summer. It seems to work fine, though the f/b appears to 
>>>> be only 12-15 dB. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.
>>>> 
>>>> The SWR looks very good measured at the shack, closely matching the 
>>>> published curves. Strangely, when I measured it up at the feedpoint, it 
>>>> looked different, though not really bad. Feedline loss is too low to 
>>>> explain that, so I don’t know what to make of it. W3JK predicted this 
>>>> effect.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve not tried load it on 12 or 17.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> 
>>>> Scott K9MA
>>>> 
>>>> ----------
>>>> 
>>>> Scott Ellington
>>>> 
>>>> --- via iPad
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 22, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am thinking about getting the JK Mid Tri.
>>>>> Have one ?  How well does it play ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, have you tried to load it on 17 and 24 with a tuner ?
>>>>> The Force 12 C31XR could be loaded on 17 and 24 with a tuner,  not that 
>>>>> great,  but it worked.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> K6UJ
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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