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Re: [TowerTalk] 2 guys, one anchor?

To: Tyler Stewart <k3mm@verizon.net>, "john@kk9a.com" <john@kk9a.com>, "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 2 guys, one anchor?
From: Wayne Kline <w3ea@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 21:35:47 +0000
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Tyler.

The only time I  never used a thimble was on the anchors that have a cable 
thimble  formed on one end.  To use the big Rohn thimble  I used   LARGE 
adjustable wrenches to rotate the opening  for the guy anchor and bent  back 
once installed .

YMMV

Wayne W3EA  ,
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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 2 guys, one anchor?

Since we are chatting about guy termination.  Is it Ok to use a 3/8” Big Grip 
on a single guy anchor rod without using a shackle or thimble?  It was 
suggested that I needed a thimble at the rod end, but that’s not even possible 
without an intermediate shackle of some sort.
Ty K3MM


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On Tuesday, May 3, 2022, 11:47 AM, john@kk9a.com wrote:

A Big-Grip would go though the eye of the turnbuckle on the tower side
regardless if an equalizing plate was used or not.  Connecting the
turnbuckle to the anchor rod may be an issue, depending on the jaw opening.
This is another reason to purchase the proper plates.

John KK9A


Steve Maki K8LX wrote:
Good point Tim.

But he said nothing about preforms.

I was assuming the anchor rods were the kind with the 'fist" ends, which
are made to have multiple wires wrapped through them. I thought he was
going to use cable clamps or compression sleeves, not big grips. That
sort of install is fine for a 60' tower.

But yes, you know what they say about assumptions...

-Steve K8LX



On 5/3/2022 10:34 AM, Tim Duffy wrote:
> Do you think it is safe to have two preforms with proper guy wire
galvanized
> thimbles (connected to guy wires via turnbuckles) at the end of a single
> anchor rod? Without EQ plates?
>
> Why is no one suggesting asking Rohn what they recommend?
>
> There was a tower a few years ago that fell - because the wrong thimbles
> were used and it caused the preform to fail.
>
> I would never climb a tower that did not have the proper Rohn
installation.
>
> 73
> Tim K3LR

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