Hi Paul,
I believe you are correct.
>From the General Rules for ARRL Contests on Bands Above 50 MHz:
"Rule 2.1.3.Use of spotting assistance or nets (operating arrangements
involving other individuals, DX-alerting nets, packet, etc) is not
permitted."
A ping jockey listing by station saying he is now on freq X using modulation
Y now calling CQ is really a self-spot by that station. That itself is
something not allowed for him by another rule I think, and it is not
permitted for a person entering as a single op to connect to that
assistance. This PJ spot is not really different than a packet spot, isn't
it?
This past weekend, I tried WSJT for the first time during a contest but did
not connect to ping jockey. I was not even motivated to do so. After using
WSJT for a few weeks I had learned the process of knowing when the decoded
messages had correct info, and then just followed the recommended sequence
of replies to know when my qso's were confirmed. What else would ping jockey
have done for me? During non-contest times it is nice to be able to have a
short chat on ping jockey or to get more insight into incomplete contacts.
Maybe someday there will be an SOA category, but I doubt I would enter it
since I think it would contribute far less to the fun factor than it does in
HF contests. One time last year I had missed that rule and connected to
packet and found that seeing a spot from a station in Maryland about a
station in Tennessee didn't help me any in Connecticut.
73
Chet, N8RA
-----Original Message-----
From: vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Paul Kiesel
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:30 PM
To: 'VHF Contest Reflector'
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHF contesting ethics questions
I messed up my reply to this, so here it is:
In the interst of being specific about the topic of using the internet, I
ask:
May a single op station participating in the June VHF QSO Party use the N0UK
Ping Jockey and EME pages to look for callsigns/frequencies of potential
QSOs? I think not, but there are others who disagree.
Paul, K7CW
--- Paul Kiesel <k7cw@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- "Chet, N8RA" <chetsubaccount@snet.net> wrote:
>
> > My current belief is that propagation data sites like
> >
> > -the aurora oval picture
> > -Hepburn map predictions
> > -WWV SFI A and K info
> > -muf plots
> > -E's cloud maps
> > -NWS radar images
> >
> > that have no specific real time station callsigns displayed with
> > them, are OK to use, and are within the letter, spirit and intent of
> > the rules. These don't solicit, suggest, or pre-fill info on
> working
> > a specific station right
> > now. If my belief is not correct, I'm certainly
> open
> > to hear about it.
> >
> > The site you mention does show callsigns if you mouseover the color
> > bands.
> > (But I really don't know if those are unworkable stations like
> > beacons or repeaters or include indicators from stations now active
> > in that location.)
> >
> > Discussion of specific examples of ok's and
> no-no's
> > really helps make it
> > clearer to me, much more so than trying to parse
> the
> > meanings of words in
> > multiple sets of rules as an attorney might-hi.
> >
> > 73
> > Chet, N8RA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com
> > [mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of kb8u vhf
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:04 AM
> > To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> > Subject: [VHFcontesting] VHF contesting ethics questions
> >
> >
> > Do people think it is ethical to use the internet
> to
> > get National Weather
> > Service radar images to assist in knowing where to point a 10 GHz
> > dish for rain-scatter propagation during contests when all other
> > aspects of the contact are facilitated over the air? Exclude the 10
> > GHz and up contest since the rules for that one say anything goes.
> >
> > How about use of the real-time propagtion map at
> >
>
http://www.mountainlake.k12.mn.us/ham/aprs/path.cgi?map=na
> > ?
> >
> > Neither give the callsign or frequency of anybody you could work so
> > I'm OK with them but I'll stop if I'm in the minority.
> >
> > -Russ KB8U
> >
> >
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