All
But should we not be looking at why FT8 is dominant and not trying to figure
out ways to put the genie back in the bottle?. Maybe it has to do with the
apparently declining number of "good CW ops" or the number of people who even
know Morse Code. Maybe it has something to do with the ability to be
successful, whatever that means, with less than a KW and stacked beams. Maybe
it has to do with the possibility that for a station who mostly does S&P it is
more efficient than SSB S&P. Remember the job of the little stations is to
maximize their score, not the score of the big multi/multi run stations. And I
get it, that is bad news to the multi/multi players.
We will get it figured out. It is a hobby and it is about having fun. Being
the 6m band captain for a multi/multi believe me I get it. But I also know we
can't fix it by turning the clock backwards. Genies do not like to go back in
the bottle.
John
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On Sep 18, 2019 13:11, Mark Spencer <mark@alignedsolutions.com> wrote:
>
> Or perhaps be able to work a station twice on one band using any two separate
> modes (ie. Digital, Phone or CW)
>
> That way operators who didn't want to run digital could run Phone and CW and
> still be able to work stations twice on each band.
>
> 73
>
> Mark S
> VE7AFZ
>
> mark@alignedsolutions.com
> 604 762 4099
>
> > On Sep 18, 2019, at 11:03 AM, Dave <kdcarlso@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > If you got rid of the two signal rule you would actually reduce the
> > activity. If there is a rule change I would support the idea of being able
> > to work a station twice. Once on digital and once on CW or SSB. That would
> > help reduce FT8's dominance.
> >
> > Dave
> > N2OA
> >
> >> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:59 AM RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think the mode switching problem (and people getting "stuck on FT8")
> >> has been made worse by the recent change in ARRL VHF contest rules that
> >> allows single ops to transmit simultaneously on multiple bands. It was
> >> easy
> >> for example for me to set up a single computer with two sound cards and
> >> two
> >> radios running FT8. I think many ops now want to have a radio running 6M
> >> FT8 all the time to catch weak openings on that band.
> >> Only allowing a single signal at once on ANY band (like HF contests) would
> >> discourage single ops from trying to cover multiple bands on FT8.
> >>
> >> Technically It is not easy to have a computer+two radios on FT8 and easily
> >> switch back and forth from SSB (keeping a soundcard for voice messages of
> >> course). Yes, you can go to multiple computers instead.
> >>
> >> Also, allowing internet chat rooms I think has made FT8 use take priority
> >> over SSB/CW, just because it is much easier to do FT8 + internet compared
> >> to SSB/CW + internet.
> >> Tor N4OGW
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019, 7:41:47 AM CDT, N1BUG <
> >> paul@n1bug.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is a situation I am going to have to investigate and try to
> >> deal with as soon as I have some quality free time for radio...
> >> hopefully in about 5 to 6 weeks.
> >>
> >> Call it over thinking things if you want, but of necessity band
> >> switching tasks are complicated here. I am active from LF to UHF and
> >> can only afford to have one good transceiver. VHF band switching
> >> involves switching 28 MHz IF to the appropriate transverter,
> >> reducing power output from the transceiver, enabling the correct
> >
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