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Subject: [AMPS] Re: swr
From: mgilmer@gnlp.com (Gilmer, Mike)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:19:29 -0400
On Friday, October 01, 1999 2:28 PM, Jon Ogden [SMTP:jono@enteract.com]
wrote:
> Gilmer, Mike wrote:
> 
> >This doesn't say I thought the SWR varied ALONG the cable.  I'll
> >rephrase: In a system where (at the far end) the load (antenna) and
> >cable have different impedances, the impedance seen looking into the
> >near end of the cable will change depending on cable length.
Correct?
> >
> >Therefore, does that not imply that the SWR at, say, the amp/cable
> >interface (50 ohm source, changing load), also change depending on
the
> >length of said cable? 
> 
> No, that's not correct.  That is the same as saying that SWR varies
along 
> the length of the cable.

Yup, I guess it does. :(

OK, so somewhat rhetorically...

If the cable/antenna were treated as a black box, with some impedance, Z
(caused by the cable length's transforming effect on the antenna
impedance), and some VSWR (caused by the mismatch of the cable and
antenna), what does the "amp" see when it looks into the black box?
It sees, of course, the same VSWR and the same impedance.
So this means I can't expect a SWR meter between the amp and the black
box to read 1:1 even if the black box is 50 ohms. Is this true?

What changes/happens now as I try to "tune" the amp into the black box?
I'm not changing the black box at all (so the SWR meter doesn't change).
I'm only changing what the tube sees looking into its tank, correct?


  SWR is the ration of the forward and reflected 
> voltage.  This ratio is constant along the cable regardless of length.

> So it is possible the to tap into a 50 Ohm real resistance spot on the

> cable and still have a high SWR.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jon
> KE9NA

73
Mike N2MG

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