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Subject: [AMPS] Chokes
From: W8JI@contesting.com (Tom Rauch)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:21:47 -0500
Hi Marv,

> permeability, it was likely greater than 100.  Thus, the core is
> intercepting relatively little of the magnetic field compared to a tight
> winding.  Additionally, rod cores with their open magnetic structure are
> very difficult to saturate compared to a toroid or other closed loop form.

Heating is always more of a problem than saturation, because of 
the finite Q of soft-iron cores. The usual exception is pulse duty. 
Most off the shelf rods have too much loss tangent at HF. They 
look like a resistor in series with an inductor. 

If you tell me the core material type number (assuming it is a 
standard number), I can tell you the Q or ratio of resistance to 
reactance. I'd bet it is pretty poor with an off-the-shelf rod at the 
high end of HF.  

>   Since relatively little RF current flows through this coil, if things
> are working correctly, the DC component probably creates more flux.  

The "dc" flowing through the core is time-varying at an RF rate. I'm 
afraid no matter what the impedance, you are stuck with a certain 
number of ampere-turns that are changing at an RF rate. 

>   A tuned circuit is a much more demanding application... probably
> requiring something in the neighborhood of 100x the power handling
> capability.

It always translates to volt-turns at a certain impedance, or ampere 
turns at a certain frequency. Q of a resonant system multiplies the 
problem because of increased VAR power.

I would be skeptical of using random ferrite materials in a HV, high 
current application at RF. Ferrites do not get rid of heat well.

 
73, Tom W8JI
w8ji@contesting.com

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