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Subject: [Amps] CB amps on e-Bay
From: wy6k@yahoo.com (WYsixK)
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:38:39 -0700 (PDT)
You're wrong Jim,

The CBer's with amps might not hurt anybody if they stayed in the CB
band.  But they don't.  You must not operate 10 meter CW or you would
know that.  It is damned difficult to work DX on 10 CW nowadays because
of all the trashy CBers that are operating there.

The propensity for many CBers to operate illegally, whether with regard
to power or frequency, is a threat to our operations and, ultimately a
threat to our licenses.  The average person doesn't know there is any
difference between CB and Ham.  So anything that CBers do that is
illegal rubs off on us too - and probably contributes to a call for
more restrictions on hams.  All this high power CB stuff may cause the
demise of the CB service too - but that would be fine with me.  I think
it should be replaced with something like a 900 Mhz band and returned
to its original intent - casual short range communication.

Ham radio is put at real risk any time a CBer runs a ham radio power
amp and causes TVI or any other type of interference.  The logical
pushback from those that experience the interference is to "take away
their amps".  If our defense is that the CBers are using Ham amps
illegally, the response will still be "Well, we can't police each and
every CBer, but we can sure outlaw the amps they use, lower the power
limits for hams, and restrict outdoor antennas".

CBers have already cost us the 10 meter band on commercial power amps
and it's not at all far fetched to worry that their misdeeds can cost
us our power amps.  If the only way to curtail high power CB operations
is to make the sale of all RF power amps illegal, you can count on it
happening.  

I'd like to see all of us file complaints every time we see a CB amp on
ebay or wherever.  The more that can be done to restrain illegal CB
oeration, the better it is for both services.

Michael

--- Jim Thompson - W3LAP <w3lap@america.net> wrote:
> Jim Strohm
> Please just keep your windows buttoned up at 902 SAVANNA LN and leave
> well
> enough alone. Where did you get your start - CB band. YES. Those guys
> and girls
> on the cb band are not harming you in the least. The world would be a
> better
> world if people like yourself wasn't continually looking for fault.
> My-2-cents-worth.
> --
> Jim Thompson - w3lap
> 
> 
> 
> > Jim Strohm wrote:
> > 
> > > "Roger D. Johnson" <n1rj@pivot.net> says --
> > >
> > > > I've noticed a bunch of obvious CB amps for auction on
> > > >e-Bay. I've been going through the FCC regs trying to
> > > >find an easy way for a non-ham to tell the difference
> > > >between a legal "ham" amp and one of the illegal "CB"
> > > >types.
> > > >  Since 28 April 1978, amps have to be "type accepted"
> > > >(the old term for certificated). My Drake L-7 just has
> > > >a sticker saying that it's type accepted. Do later amps
> > > >have an FCC ID number? Some of my gear has the FCC ID
> > > >number some don't. What section of the regs determines
> > > >which equipment is required to have the number? I can
> > > >find all kinds of info on applying for the number, what
> > > >tests the gear must pass, etc.
> > >
> > > I've seen some post-1978 CB amps bearing an obviously bogus label
> > stating
> > > "Certified according to FCC regulations effective 28 April 1978"
> or
> > > something like that.  Right now I don't have anything of that
> vintage in
> > > the shack that's still pristine enough to have the label affixed.
> > >
> > > If you slide a T81-series Mitrek through a bandsaw, you get a
> dandy 100+
> > > watt HF amp that'll drive to full output on a few hundred
> milliwatts.
> > >
> > > If you get a label printer, you can type "FCC Type Accepted" and
> print a
> > > type acceptance label (at your own risk -- use of such a label is
> a
> > > specific and flagrant violation).  Just don't use the yellow
> label tape
> > > with the smiley faces, okay?
> > >
> > > And -- I saw those amps on ebay.  Usually I'll file a complaint
> if the
> > item
> > > shows up on a search for CB linear, AND the description says it
> was used
> > on
> > > 11, or is described as suitable for same.  But the last time I
> looked,
> > > there were so many chicken-choker amps on ebay that I just gave
> up.
> > >
> > > Jim N6OTQ
> > >
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