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Re: [Amps] Non-inductive resistors

To: Radio WC6W <wc6w@juno.com>,"amps@contesting.com" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Non-inductive resistors
From: craxd <craxd1@ezwv.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:06:48 -0400
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Marv,
Why sure I am. I just wish I knew where the old one went. I still think it grew legs one day I had several visiting my workshop. After that, I couldn't locate it after I went looking. That happened about a year ago and just so happened you had a copy! =)


I'll say this, the old books had a lot more worth while information than anything now new in print! About like that amp book just published by the ARRL. It was touted by ads to be a great piece of work, until one on here ordered it, and seen it was junk.

Will Matney

PS; I can vouch for Marvs stuff. It was shipped lightning fast, in good shape, and packed good. I'll sure do business with him again!

Radio WC6W wrote:

Sooooo, using that book I sent you, I see! :-)

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:20:28 -0400 craxd <craxd1@ezwv.com> writes:


I went back and decided to post some texts quoted out of the Radio Engineers Handbook. I read on and also found a section termed, "Load

Resistors for Absorbing Radio-frequency Power". I'll start first with the uses text for the wound resistors then on to the load portion.

"The mica-card, reversed-loop, and figure-eight types of resistors can be made to have very low phase angles and are the types used in radio-frequency attenuators. The mica-card, fish-line, and woven-tape types of construction are commonly used in decade resistance boxes designed to have a low phase angle at radio frequencies, particularly for the high-resistance units. The Ayrton-Perry winding is also suitable for use at radio frequencies, particularly for resistances up to several thousand ohms. The simple bifilar winding is suitable at radio frequencies only for resistances so low that capacity effects are of no importance. The slotted type of construction is used in very high resistance units where only moderately low phase angle is essential, as in the case of voltmeter multipliers".

"Load Resistors for Absorbing Radio-frequency Power.-Resistors used as radio-frequency loads, i.e., as dummy antennas, present a particularly difficult problem, since here one desires a nonreactive unit capable of dissipating appreciable wattage. When the power is in the order of fifty watts or less, several satisfactory arrangements are available. One

consists of a bifilar resistance element supported on mica and mounted in a glass bulb filled with inert gas, preferably hydrogen". Sounds like a bomb to me..LOL (WM). "Another arrangement consists of a mica-card

type of unit mounted between two large aluminum castings that are for the purpose of conducting away the heat. Both these arrangements give

excellent phase-angle characteristics".

"When larger amounts of power are to be handled, various expedients are used. In most of these, the reactance is eliminated by tuning, and the dissipated power is evaluated by a calorimetric or photometric method, or by measuring the equivelant circuit resistance at the frequency involved. Another possibility is to use a metalized type of resistor

immersed in cooling water (1). In this way, the rating can be increased to 50 to 80 times that for air, and is of the order of 100 watts per

square inch of surface. The power being dissipated can be determined

from the rate of flow and temperature rise of the cooling water. By

making the resistor the central conductor of a concentric line shorted at the receiving end, the reactance at the input terminals can, by suitable design proportions, be made zero".

(1) See G.H. Brown and J. W. Conklin, Water-cooled Resistors for Ultrahigh Frequencies, Electronics. Vol. 14, p. 24, April, 1941.

"The bifilar winding has negligible inductance, but the capacity is

relatively large, because the beginning and end of the resistance are close together. This capacity effect can be minimized to some extent by sub-dividing the total resistance into several bifilar sections, as

shown in Fig. 10h (Bifilar-series)".

Will Matney
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