| Tony --  The problem with 0 - 115% variable transformers is that it is 
not necessary to be able to adjust the filament V more than +/- 8%.  A 
rheostat does the job nicely. 
 On Oct 29, 2004, at 6:26 AM, Tony King wrote:
 
 
 An easy solution would be to obtain one of the small variable 
transformers (I have a couple I bought on Ebay) and put it in the 
filament transformer primary so you can make the necessary minor 
adjustment.  73, Tony W4ZT
 
 At 08:47 AM 10/29/2004, Jim Smith wrote:
 I'd install a buck/boost transformer to correct the problem with 
voltage drop rather than working around it, which may lead to still 
more complications.
 Jim Smith, KQ6UV
 
 
 ----- Original Message -----
From: TexasRF@aol.com
To: amps@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:34 AM
Subject: [Amps] filament voltage question 
 I am looking for some advice on adjusting the filament voltage on a 
TH347
 tetrode used in my 1296mhz cavity amplifier. The TH347 is a directly 
heated
 cathode tube.
 
 Due to a long underground run for the 240vac line (approx 900ft of 4-0
 3/cond) there is a voltage drop of about 4% when the amplifier is 
driven key  down.
 The hv power supply is a capacitor input circuit and draws approx 21 
amps
 off the 240vac line. I suspect the peak current is over 100 amps 
during key down
 periods.
 
 The tube manufacturer suggests setting the filament voltage to 5.8vac 
for
 operation at these frequencies due to added cathode power from back 
bombardment.
 The normal service is for continuous television transmission and 
average
 plate  current is about 1 amp. When used on cw the keydown plate 
current is about
 1.75  amps.
 
 My tests indicate that 5.8vac is too low for cw as the plate current 
is
 about the same at the beginning and at the end of a long 
transmission. In other
 words, there does not seem to be any significant added cathode 
emission due  to
 back bombardment during cw transmission. On the other hand, with a 
steady A0
 carrier, the plate current does rise as does the power output over a 
10 to 15
 second time frame. This suggests that there is an increase in cathode
 emission  under these conditions.
 
 When I raise the filament voltage from 5.8 to 6.0 volts the cw power 
out
 rises from about 1600w to 2000w and remains near 2000w under most test
 conditions.
 
 A complication is that the filament voltage drops almost .25v just 
due to
 the line voltage drop from keyup to keydown. This means that the 
voltage has to
 be set at 6.25v keyup to measure 6.0v keydown. I have read comments 
about
 tube  life being shortened when the filament voltage is elevated. 
These are
 fairly  expensive tubes and good pulls are almost non-existent. 
Obviously one would
 like  to make the tube last as long as practical.
 
 Does anyone out there have input on the effect of elevated filament 
voltage
 during periods that the cathode is not emmiting? In other words, is 
tube life
 compromised during standby periods or is it only for operating 
periods that
 matter?
 
 Adding a filament voltage regulator is complicated by the 34 amp 
current
 requirement for the tube. It would be fairly easy to switch in a 
small value
 resistor at the filament transformer primary to reduce the 
receive/standby
 filament voltage but I wonder if this is a viable solution?
 
 Any comments/suggestions are appreciated.
 
 
 Thanks/73,
Gerald/K5GW
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