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Re: [Amps] A Meeting Ground

To: StephenTetorka@cs.com, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] A Meeting Ground
From: Bill Fuqua <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 13:04:16 -0500
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This has always been an issue. Particularly when high-Q circuits are involved.
One time while helping the accelerator tech try to find out why our 20 MHz, 10KW bunching amplifier signal was getting into the sensitive instrumentation I noticed that in haste they only installed every other screw on a panel shielding a very high-Q tuned circuit from the outside world. This was a 3 turn ( really looked more like twist) water cooled coil with the ends of the tuned circuit going to defection plates used to deflect 5 MegaElectron Volt protons at a 20 MHz rate.


Well, I took an insulated screw driver and put it between the shield (where a screw was supposed to be) and the chassis. And there was an RF arc. The there were screws on either side only about 6 inches away and we were producing an arc half way between them on a 1/8 inch thick aluminum plate which they assumed was grounded. Needless to say, they reinstalled the screws and the problem went away.

I have noticed some homebrew amplifiers I have purchased have the plate tuning capacitor grounded to the front panel. This is bad. Since all the fundamental and all the harmonic currents from the plate of the tube flow thru this ground path and can produce a good deal of radiated TVI off the front panel.

Also, it is bad when the plate capacitor return path to cathode on the chassis is common to the input circuit. Even though the circuits are on opposite side of the chassis there can be a good deal of coupling.

Just some thoughts.

73
Bill wa4lav


At 12:25 PM 11/4/2004 -0500, StephenTetorka@cs.com wrote:
Hi All:

This radiant discussion on parasitics invites me to ask a question: "where does all the 'mish-mash' go to when a chassis ground is employed?"

Signals and voltages that are DC, AC and RF are all permitted to happily co-join and intermix - and to be politically correct, regardless of gender (positive or negative cycle) - on this conducting element.

The fact that one chassis 'ground' can easily be a potential different from another 'ground' is an issue for another occasion.

Regards,
Steve
WA2TAK




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