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Subject: | [Amps] Combining Two Amps & Adding a Filter? |
From: | doc <kd4e@verizon.net> |
Reply-to: | kd4e@verizon.net |
Date: | Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:03:46 -0500 |
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Thanks for this list! I have often read excerpts from the archives over the years. I am in the process of combining a pair of eight 2SC2879 KW amps for 160-10M and need some help as I make this work. In addition to a splitter and a big combiner I need to build a switched HF filter. I started by purchasing the RF Electronics filter kit: http://users.aol.com/rfelectron/filter.htm but it is hopelessly underrated. I then started looking at filter designs and came upon the CWAZ and it seems to make good sense. I read an old (2000) post to the AMPS list re. the CWAZ filter and big HF amps (see below) but there were no further posts in the thread. > See the excellent CWAZ filters by W3NQN in the new edition of the > Handbook, it offers 60 db attenuation of the second harmonic. It > offers much greater performance than the 7 element chebyshev design. > It would certainly make building amplifiers easier not having to > worry about the L in the tank circuit. Craig VK3HE Has anyone implemented the CWAZ in a high power HF amp design? The CWAZ uses one additional capacitor, adding to the cost, but offers superior filtering. I also noted that in the 1999 ARRL Handbook a 50W HF amp used a different filter design with only two inductors and five capacitors. I wonder if that only provided effective filtering at lower power levels for some reason? RF Parts www.rfparts.com/combiner.html appears to have the splitter and combiner I need. I plan to order the COM-2 Input/Output .5 x .5 300W $3.75 to split the 100+ watts of input drive between the two amps and am thinking of using the COM-6 Output .5 x 1.2 2800W $6.65 Is there any advantage to choosing one of the larger combiners? COM-10 Output* .5 X 2.4 5000 19.95 18.85 COM-20 Output* 1.0 x 2.4 10,000 36.95 *includes 100W termination resistor. I am wondering about efficiency, heat, bandwidth, etc. Also, what is the purpose of the terminating resistor for these two devices but not included with the smaller ones? Any additional considerations in the implementation of the splitter and combiner, please? I noted on my amp schematic that they have added a pair of 225pF caps stacked on a third to ground at the output of the final combiner -- what would be the purpose of that, please? I also observe that at the input they have a 220pF cap in series, a 120pF cap to ground, and a 100 Ohm resistor across the out side of the splitter. Does any of that impact bandwidth and should I duplicate it on the splitter into the dual amps? Sorry for all of the questions and the lengthy detail but tried to anticipate requests for data to save time. -- Thanks! & 73, doc kd4e A blessed and joy-filled Christ-mas to all! West Central Florida 100% Linux. Suse 9.2 Hallicrafters, Heathkit, Homebrew, TenTec, Yaesu Radio Life: http://www.gospelcom.net/twr/ Linux-Incompatible hardware is defective! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps |
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