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Re: [Amps] IC-718 and AL-811: Icom manual misleading,interface necessary

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Subject: Re: [Amps] IC-718 and AL-811: Icom manual misleading,interface necessary according to Icom technician
From: "Will Matney" <craxd1@ezwv.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 15:21:12 -0500
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I believe if it were me, and I were building transceivers, that I would make sure it would switch everything out there, including the oldies. That just sounds like an awful small amount of switching power either way it goes. Ameritron says its at 100 mA on their switching, and that actually may be a little high as I imagine it switching a 12 Vdc DPDT 10 amp contact relay. I know using either a 2N2222A or even a 2N3904 will switch those with no overloading of the transistor, they run as cool as a cucumber. If that little relay is that small, I would have just used one of those transistors in it's place, switching to ground. I think, if I recall, Rich Measures has a schematic on his website for converting some of the old amps to low voltage, low current, switching. See, to me, I dont think an end user ought to have to do this, it ought to be there to begin with in the transceiver. I'll almost bet that what they pay for that little relay is more than the cost of the transistors!

Best,

Will



On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:08:02 -0800, <gdaught6@stanford.edu> wrote:

Hi Will,

I wonder if you got a reply from someone that dont know what they're
talking about by the sounds of it. Heck, a small 2N2222A will switch
the  load there with room to spare.

The transistor switch is what I use: I simply installed one in my amplifier, so it pretty much doesn't care what the source of the T/R switch signal is.

Surely, they dont have the
switching coming  straight off an IC? I dont have a schematic of it
here to look at and see  what they've done, but that just dont sound
right. Also, if it has an  actual internal relay, even a small reed
type at that, it sould switch  that amount.

No, it's not an IC, it's a small relay. My (contesting) experience was that the contacts would begin to stick, even when switching well within their specified voltage & current.

When they said "either" 16
volts or 2 amps, but not both, is  a bunch of hogwash. It just sounds
to me like a ploy to get around  warranty work no matter what!

I don't know. I've had nothing but good experiences with Icom. But the T/R switch output is way happier seeing my 0.6v @ 2ma load than it was seeing my 12V relay.

73,

George T. Daughters, K6GT




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