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Re: [Amps] water and vapor phase tube cooling

To: "Harold B. Mandel" <ka1xo@juno.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] water and vapor phase tube cooling
From: "N7HIY" <N7HIY@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 19:05:44 -0800
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
please use one of the propylene glycol antifreeze products with corrosion 
inhibitor.  some of the brands advertised for RV's are widely available and 
have safe multi metal type corrosion inhibitors which would cover anything 
in a tube anode cooler. good to -50f and non toxic. if the grandkids drink 
the pretty pink koolaid their kidneys don't quit.  propylene glycol can be 
found in many food and pharmacutical products

Cliff N7HIY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harold B. Mandel" <ka1xo@juno.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 17:48 PM
Subject: [Amps] water and vapor phase tube cooling


>I had an opportunity to work with ethylene glycol industrial
> coolant while up in New Hampshire, and everything was dandy
> until the system leaked.
>
> What I didn't know about industrial ethylene glycol was that it
> physically burns human skin even though it might not be
> at a hot temperature.
>
> We ran a 100 percent glycol system up on top of a mountain
> in NH and needed to do so in case there was a catastrophic
> power outage and access was denied because of weather
> conditions (and everything naturally froze solid).
>
> We used an accumulator with a spring diaphragm to maintain
> even pressure (along with a pressure regulator valve) and after
> one particularly nasty season the system was found to be leaking
> at the plastic-to-metal pipe junction, so the coolant had to be
> drained in order to effect repairs, and a couple of us got our
> hands and arms soaked, and with no plumbing facilities at the
> tower site we walked around for hours having just toweled the
> coolant off, and later suffered what looked to be like second-
> degree chemical burns up and down our arms.
>
> For those of us not trained by a seasoned hand in ethylene glycol
> cooling system safety I would recommend sticking with distilled
> water if you don't have to worry about frozen plumbing.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Hal Mandel
> W4HBM
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