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Re: [Amps] Soft Start

To: TexasRF@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Soft Start
From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 14:21:40 -0700
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On Aug 12, 2005, at 10:42 AM, TexasRF@aol.com wrote:

>
> An interesting characteristic of an AC relay is that it buzzes like 
> crazy  as
> the voltage ramps up to the value it needs to fully operate.

That's why a DC coil relay is needed for step-start.

>  I assume that
> the relay contacts are doing that as well which probably doesn't hurt  
> anything.

Does hotswitching @ 60Hz sound okay to you?
>
> If the tube has a directly heated cathode, the filament typically has 
> about
> 1/10 resistance cold vs. hot. The limiting resistor would be a big 
> help in
> reducing the filament current at turn on and that is a good thing.
>
> Solid state timers are available from Grainger for about $20, and are
> adjustable over a wide range of times. They simply connect between one 
> of the  relay
> coil terminals and the AC supply voltage; could not be easier to 
> install  and
> work perfectly.
>
> 73/K5GW
>
>
> In a message dated 8/12/2005 12:21:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> theo.bellamy@spirittelecom.com writes:
>
> silly me  .... that works with a B+ supply, but probably not with a 
> filament
> xmfr.  Sorry ....
>
> Theo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  amps-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]On
> Behalf  Of Theo Bellamy
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:00 PM
> To:  amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Soft Start
>
>
> Why not just  put the soft start relay coil across the primary. Since 
> there
> will be a big  voltage drop across the step start resistors - leaving 
> very
> low voltage  across the transformer primary until the filters charge - 
> the
> relay will be  timed "naturally". This will also protect against an 
> open step
> start  resistor since the relay won't ever fire in that case.
>
> Theo  K4MO
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  amps-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]On
> Behalf  Of Rich
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 12:21 PM
> To: Amps
> Subject:  [Amps] Soft Start
>
>
> OK guys I made the subject soft start , but that  about the only thing
> right this time.  The resistor should be big  enough , 50ohms 100w. It
> all worked one part at a time but when I hooked it  all up together my 
> 60
> main power relay chatters , I am going to rewire and  not run the coil
> supply for the 60 amp through all the relays. I have the  120- control
> voltage daisy changed the coils and I think I am getting VD.  That aint
> good.
> I am able to adjust the delay as required from .15 sec  to 180  with 
> the
> Dayton relays so ignore my original statement about  10sec delay on 
> HV, I
> will adjust it.
> More when I know  more.
>
> Rich ,  kd0zz
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Richard L. Measures, AG6K, 805.386.3734.  www.somis.org

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