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Subject: Re: [Amps] multi-tube amplifiers
From: PA3DUV <pa3duv@planet.nl>
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:04:20 +0200
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@ 5 kW plate dissipation a  twin GU84B will be more capable than a quattro 
GU74B amp.

2 x GU84B can be had for approx Euro 220.-, 4 x GU74B @ Euro 240.-

With approx loaded 3000 V B+ no vacuum caps are needed in the tank circuit.
The main trick will be the input circuitry. For more details see the files 
an photo section : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emtrondx15/

Cheers, Dick
PA3DUV



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harold Mandel" <ka1xo@juno.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: [Amps] multi-tube amplifiers


> Gents,
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>
>
> At some point, running more than one good tube can only achieve
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> limited results, measured "bang-for-buck" or "steps-in-reinventing
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> the wheel."
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>
>
> Many years ago I built a transmitter that used 4 metal 6L6's inverted
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> in an oil bath for a whopping 125 watts on 40 meters. The project
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> was a result of late-Friday night yakking at the Bronx Radio Club
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> (W2FZ). The bunch of high-schoolers who frequented the club
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> were interested in what we could come up with, and "Radio Row"
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> was still standing where the World Trade Center would soon
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> be built, so mil-surplus cheap electronics were still a subway
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> ride away.
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>
>
> In the intervening years I found that multi-tube radios (read PA's)
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> require all sorts of consideration that escalates rapidly with that
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> next added tube.
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>
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> I am still amazed how Denny did so well with the LK-550, running
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> three 3-500Z tubes.
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>
>
> However, looking into another project after the dual 8877 amp,
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> I considered a three-tube 8877.  Before plunking down any money
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> all the usual suspects were grilled. "Why torture yourself?" was
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> the most frequent reply.
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>
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> If I wanted X amount of power, the first consideration was the power
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> supply. Next, a budget for the RF department. For cheaper an
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> expenditure for everything a 3 tube 8877 would cost I could build
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> an AB2 3CX5,000A, and even a 3CX6,000A device.
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>
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> Even a dual 4-1000A tube amp was considered. That is a "retro"
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> project still in consideration, as I would use a microwave oven
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> door-window in the RF head to show off the tubes. But never a 3 tube
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> 4-1000A: That's an exercise in futility.
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>
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> I would suggest to the builder who is considering the four-tube
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> 4CX800A device to maybe considering a 2-tube GU-84b if
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> he's so in love with Russian surplus tubes. Several of our
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> group have already reinvented that wheel and I'm sure each of
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> us would help the new builder over the humps..
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>
>
> Hal
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> W4HBM
>
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