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Re: [Amps] Arc distance

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Arc distance
From: Dave Haupt <emailw8nf@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:19:30 -0700 (PDT)
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Ian, I always learn something from your longer
postings.  Often it's a summary of bits and pieces I
already knew, more often it's new data.  Thanks for
this.

I would concur with the notion that the path length is
of very small concern when it comes to arcs.  During
my "day job" I have occasion to be involved in the
design and fabrication of thick-film circuits -
precision attenuators, IC carriers and the like.  In
our ceramics processing facility, we perform
sputtering, both DC-enabled and RF-enabled.  It is not
unusual to have flash arcs occur in the sputtering
tank, whose walls are of translucent glass.  We can
clearly witness the arcs occurring, and they seem
never to occur where the two conductors come closest
together.  We also have never actually seen an
arc-mark afterwards.  It must depend on how much
material is transferred during the arc.  It is also
interesting to note that there is no gain in a
sputtering tank - we have high voltage, but no
amplification going on.  So, this is purely an arc in
a high vacuum environment.  Generally, we "train" the
tank each time we use it, allowing it to arc many
times before it settles down.  Only after tank
"training" as we call it, do we apply heat to the
plating material, so it can vaporize and plate the
ceramics which we are processing.

Interesting bit of physics, all told!

73,

Dave W8NF


==== in reply to ===

There are two long-term sources of gas in tubes. One
is a leak to 
atmosphere, and the other is "outgassing" of
structural materials.

Leaks can be large or small, but they are always a
one-way trip, with 
only one end. Outgassing is more complex, and not
necessarily fatal.

Impurities in metals are the main source of
outgassing. When the metals 
are refined from ores, they always have built-in
impurities. Materials 
for use in vacuum tubes are extensively refined, by a
combination of 
chemical processing and heating in a vacuum furnace...
but still some 
impurities remain in the atomic lattice structures.

There are also gas molecules chemically bound onto the
exposed surfaces 
of metals, ceramic and glass. These are largely
removed in the later 
stages of vacuum pumping, by heating the whole tube
far above its normal 
operating temperature while continuing to pump. The
better the 
materials, and the longer the time for which the tube
is pumped, the 
better the vacuum will be... but they can't pump and
bake forever, so 
eventually the tube has to be sealed off.

At that point, the getter is activated. The getter is
a chemically 
active material that has been placed inside the tube
to act as a kind of 
'fly paper' for stray gas molecules that might appear
in the future. The 
getter in receiving tubes (and small glass
transmitting tubes like the 
807) is typically barium metal, which had been left
inside the tube in a 
little tray. On the production line, an induction coil
heats up the 
tray, evaporating the barium onto the glass as a
slivery-looking film 
with a highly reactive surface. This will continue to
mop up stray gas 
molecules for the life of the tube. (If that film has
turned white, it 
means there has been a gross air leak - the barium
metal has turned to 
oxide, and the tube is done for.)

Transmitting tubes are different because they run much
hotter and 
operate at higher voltages, and a volatile metal like
barium would 
evaporate from where it had been deposited, and then
condense in all the 
wrong places. Instead, the getter materials are
typically zirconium or 
tantalum, which are non-volatile but *need* to run hot
in order to 
operate effectively. That is why the main getter in a
glass tube like a 
3-500Z is located on the metal anode (the grey surface
finish is the 
zirconium getter) and in a metal/ceramic tube it is
located on the 
heater (the next hottest location). Most transmitting
tubes actually 
have multiple getters to mop up the various kinds of
gas molecules, 
using different materials in locations at different
temperatures.

Immediately after manufacture, the vacuum will
probably be about 10^-8 
mmHg, which is really quite good for a routine
production-line process, 
but no great shakes by the standards of a vacuum lab.
At this standard 
of vacuum, a typical tube may contain anything between
a million and a 
billion gas molecules! (PV=nRT... work it out)

Most of the time, a "vacuum" tube operates perfectly
well in spite of 
sharing the space with very large numbers of gas
molecules. But 
sometimes you need to remember that the tube is also a
reaction vessel 
for some complex low-pressure chemistry.

Coming back to impurities... immediately after
manufacture, the vacuum 
is probably pretty good because all the surface
impurities were flashed 
off. However, impurities that were trapped deeper
inside the metal can 
continue to diffuse to the surface over the lifetime
of the tube, and 
can be released as gas into the "vacuum" space causing
a small increase 
in pressure.

If the getter is active, it will mop up the impurities
within typically 
a few seconds (determined by the time it takes for the
molecules to 
bounce around until they strike the getter surface,
and by the 
probability that a molecule will hit a chemically
active spot that can 
form a strong enough bond to make it stick). But a few
seconds is far 
too slow to prevent an arc, which can strike within
microseconds if all 
the other conditions are right.

This explains why tubes can arc for no apparent
reason, but if you try 
again a short time later, the tube goes back to normal
as if nothing had 
happened. (Obviously this requires an amplifier with
good HV surge 
limiting and fast shutdown protection. If the arc is
allowed to persist 
at high current, it will damage both the tube and the
amp.)

It also explains why transmitting tubes generally need
to be pre-heated 
after a long period out of use. The process of slow
diffusion to the 
surface of the materials means that gas will probably
have accumulated, 
and the getter needs some time at a high temperature
in order to do its 
job.

-- 
73 from Ian GM3SEK

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