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Re: [Amps] Ferrite Rod

To: Tom W8JI <w8ji@w8ji.com>, Larry Carman <lncarman@swbell.net>,amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Ferrite Rod
From: Peter Chadwick <g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk>
Reply-to: g3rzp@g3rzp.wanadoo.co.uk
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 14:36:20 +0100 (CET)
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
Tom said:
>We *never* want to do this with high current filaments. The 
reason being nothing cancels magnetizing flux caused by the 
many ampere turns of the single winding and the core often 
saturates. The result is at best a loss of RF choke 
impedance at the filament, at worse it will introduce hum as 
the filament current modulates the reactance causing large 
reactance swings at a 120Hz rate (two impedance nulls and 
two peaks per AC cycle).<
I was looking into filament chokes last week for my 4-250A amp rebuild. Here, 
I'm running passive grid, and the filament chokes are there to allow the 
filaments to be held off ground by a 20 ohm resistor for NFB. (Not necessarily 
the best way of NFB, as it raises output impedance, but it works, and is 
relatively broadband). I used a bifilar winding of 4 turns on a Siemens N30 
grade pot core about 1.25 inches diameter. This gave (from memory - the actual 
numbers are in my notebook at home, and I'm at work)something about 200 
microhenries with no DC, dropping to about 70 microhenries with 1 amp - 
measured at 1.8MHz, using my GR bridge. I figured this was probably acceptable, 
since the choke is shunted by 20ohms in series with a 0.01 microfarad. But the 
effects of the DC plate current probably needs considering on the bigger tubes 
with ferrite rod chokes. I vaguely remember a big GG stage (100kW or so) that I 
saw that used parallel copper bars, about 3/16 inch thick and and 3/4 
 inch wide, and large 'u' shaped pieces of ferrite around them, with quite a 
lot of spacing. I'll have to look up the description of the STC 100kW tx in the 
1963 IEE HF Convention proceedings and see if there's any info there on what 
they did for filament chokes. I know the rotary tank coil was tube with cooling 
air blown down it.....
73
Peter G3RZP
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