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Re: [Amps] How about a Solid State MARS amp

To: kg7hf@comcast.net, amps@contesting.com,schuetzen <chasm@texas.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] How about a Solid State MARS amp
From: <w5ba@charter.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:06:35 -0700
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Chas,

It's been a long time since I was a member of MARS (AAF5TVM in '67) but it 
seems like one solution might be to go through whatever the current requisition 
channels are appropriate to see towards obtaining an AM-3979 (component of 
AN/FRC-93).
In civilian use this was also known as the Collins 30L-1.  It would seem to 
offer a solution to your 1KW output requirement as well as something that is 
rugged enough for transport in field requirements.

GL & 73, Gerald  W5BA
---- schuetzen <chasm@texas.net> wrote: 
> kg7hf@comcast.net wrote:
> > Hi Chas,
> > 
> > Even removing the 160 meter requirement, it would make the ss easier, but 
> > still the $1/w unattainable in either ss or tube.  Like Tom said, the 
> > filter board is really going to add up in price.  Not only are the caps 
> > expensive (especially for one off construction), you have to have pretty 
> > beefy relays to switch in/out each desired filter.  I've been referenceing 
> > the TL-2.5k, and part of the reason is that I am somewhat familiar with 
> > what is inside it.  Nobuki Wakabayashi was very kind and helpful towards me 
> > when I embarked on a legal limit ss amp.  My amp is not complete, and I am 
> > into it well over $2000.  While it is operational, there are many necessary 
> > things that I have not put in which the commercial version has.  Thermal 
> > protection, high/short swr protection, automatic band switching, the list 
> > goes on.  On the converse side, I am running a bit better power supply than 
> > thp, I'm using a switching power supply that has a bit more voltage/current 
> > capability.   
> > 
> > 73's
> > Paul
> 
> I understand that but my point is that there simply is not anything out 
> there betwee 3.2 and 29 mhz portable for a kw+  for any price reasonale 
>   to a volunteer and I think that includes both tube and SS.
> 
> Almost all are less than 800W.  Tom's ALS600 is still that, NOT 800W+
> This MARS amp to be really popular is goiong to have to be a 1kw to make 
> it interesting enough for the affiliate to be willing to buy it.  He is 
> going to want to use it for MARS at a max of 500W but also to be able to 
> go to Ham bands and work Dx with at least 800W.
> 
> Really, this is so reminiscent of the discussions of the perfect 
> rifle... what it should be to be able hunt anything from prairie dogs to 
> Elk or moose.  simply stated, there is no such thing as a single rifle 
> for all that different game anymore than I am going to find a single amp 
> for a reasonable price for continous tuning and 1kw.
> 
> $2/W is more reasonable a price but that is a lot of months of 
> discretionary money being saved and being hit here and there for 
> repairing the plumbing, or the car, etc.  Also, it is one thing to save 
> a thousand dollars but a multiple starts getting into shoulder shrugging 
> and trying to find something barely fits any requirement.
> 
> We just may have to find some way to subsidize the purchase but first, 
> we are going to have to find what we want, being manufactured now.
> Lets face it, we do not want to take a Quadra or an ICOM version of same 
> in the back of your mobile cross country while trying to operate it on 
> the road.  And I doubt that any of those meet the band requirements 
> anyway.  Have looked at so  many specs in the last couple of months, 
> that they are confused in my mind.  wish now that i had made up a 
> comparison chart before i started looking at models.
> 
> Still, I really do appreciate your reply and time, kind consideration as 
> well as that of Tom and others on this reflector.  I am not giving up 
> yet hihi
> 
> 73/chas/k5dam
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