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Re: [Amps] How about a Solid State MARS amp

To: <kg7hf@comcast.net>, <amps@contesting.com>,"schuetzen" <chasm@texas.net>, <w5ba@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] How about a Solid State MARS amp
From: "RAY FRIESS" <rayfrijr@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:28:19 -0600
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You can forget about seeking one through MARS acquisition channels.
I'm a member of MARS and I know what I'm talking about when I say that the 
equipment acquisition programs are dead in the water.  They have been shut down 
by the chiefs who all three have stated they do not believe in the programs and 
will not approve any requests, despite DOD regulations saying the chiefs WILL 
have the programs in operation and they do not have the option of killing them.
The chiefs do as they darn will please, including blatantly ignoring the 
requirement to have the requisition programs operational.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: w5ba@charter.net<mailto:w5ba@charter.net> 
  To: kg7hf@comcast.net<mailto:kg7hf@comcast.net> ; 
amps@contesting.com<mailto:amps@contesting.com> ; 
schuetzen<mailto:chasm@texas.net> 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Amps] How about a Solid State MARS amp


  Chas,

  It's been a long time since I was a member of MARS (AAF5TVM in '67) but it 
seems like one solution might be to go through whatever the current requisition 
channels are appropriate to see towards obtaining an AM-3979 (component of 
AN/FRC-93).
  In civilian use this was also known as the Collins 30L-1.  It would seem to 
offer a solution to your 1KW output requirement as well as something that is 
rugged enough for transport in field requirements.

  GL & 73, Gerald  W5BA
  ---- schuetzen <chasm@texas.net<mailto:chasm@texas.net>> wrote: 
  > kg7hf@comcast.net<mailto:kg7hf@comcast.net> wrote:
  > > Hi Chas,
  > > 
  > > Even removing the 160 meter requirement, it would make the ss easier, but 
still the $1/w unattainable in either ss or tube.  Like Tom said, the filter 
board is really going to add up in price.  Not only are the caps expensive 
(especially for one off construction), you have to have pretty beefy relays to 
switch in/out each desired filter.  I've been referenceing the TL-2.5k, and 
part of the reason is that I am somewhat familiar with what is inside it.  
Nobuki Wakabayashi was very kind and helpful towards me when I embarked on a 
legal limit ss amp.  My amp is not complete, and I am into it well over $2000.  
While it is operational, there are many necessary things that I have not put in 
which the commercial version has.  Thermal protection, high/short swr 
protection, automatic band switching, the list goes on.  On the converse side, 
I am running a bit better power supply than thp, I'm using a switching power 
supply that has a bit more voltage/current capability.   
  > > 
  > > 73's
  > > Paul
  > 
  > I understand that but my point is that there simply is not anything out 
  > there betwee 3.2 and 29 mhz portable for a kw+  for any price reasonale 
  >   to a volunteer and I think that includes both tube and SS.
  > 
  > Almost all are less than 800W.  Tom's ALS600 is still that, NOT 800W+
  > This MARS amp to be really popular is goiong to have to be a 1kw to make 
  > it interesting enough for the affiliate to be willing to buy it.  He is 
  > going to want to use it for MARS at a max of 500W but also to be able to 
  > go to Ham bands and work Dx with at least 800W.
  > 
  > Really, this is so reminiscent of the discussions of the perfect 
  > rifle... what it should be to be able hunt anything from prairie dogs to 
  > Elk or moose.  simply stated, there is no such thing as a single rifle 
  > for all that different game anymore than I am going to find a single amp 
  > for a reasonable price for continous tuning and 1kw.
  > 
  > $2/W is more reasonable a price but that is a lot of months of 
  > discretionary money being saved and being hit here and there for 
  > repairing the plumbing, or the car, etc.  Also, it is one thing to save 
  > a thousand dollars but a multiple starts getting into shoulder shrugging 
  > and trying to find something barely fits any requirement.
  > 
  > We just may have to find some way to subsidize the purchase but first, 
  > we are going to have to find what we want, being manufactured now.
  > Lets face it, we do not want to take a Quadra or an ICOM version of same 
  > in the back of your mobile cross country while trying to operate it on 
  > the road.  And I doubt that any of those meet the band requirements 
  > anyway.  Have looked at so  many specs in the last couple of months, 
  > that they are confused in my mind.  wish now that i had made up a 
  > comparison chart before i started looking at models.
  > 
  > Still, I really do appreciate your reply and time, kind consideration as 
  > well as that of Tom and others on this reflector.  I am not giving up 
  > yet hihi
  > 
  > 73/chas/k5dam
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