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Re: [Amps] Gonset 903 2 meter amplifier question

To: n1miw@cox.net, Amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Gonset 903 2 meter amplifier question
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:47:29 EDT
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Larry, your descriptions sounds like a classic example of self oscillation.  
The usual fix for that is adjustment of the grid/plate neutralization  circuit.
 
There is plenty of info about this in any ARRL handbook printed in the last  
50 or 60 years.
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/30/2008 9:15:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
n1miw@cox.net writes:

Hello guys, trying to get one of these amps back on the air, and  I am
having a little bit of difficulty. I hope this is an easy question for  some
of you, and would appreciate the knowledge feedback! Here's the  history of
my amp... purchased on ebay with the hopes of learning about  tube amps from
restoring it, but the electrical problems were more  elaborate than I was
told (said it needed the HV transformer, and would be  including the spare
with the amp). I found the diode stack blown, the  capacitors were moldy, so
I knew they needed to be replaced. The HV xformer  is fine, so I have a spare
now. Also needed to replace the tune resistor  since it was broken (4k 100
watt ceramic). The screen supply xformer is  reading 140V instead of ~35V, so
I installed a small xformer for that  circuit. Now, she powers up fine with
no sparks or blown fuses, so I think  I'm getting somewhere with it. My
problem is this... when I turn the HV on,  I see an output on the wattmeter -
about 80 watts or so, with my plate  current at ~70ma (70ma is spec for the
4x150a). I am NOT transmitting into  the amp when this happens! If I provide
a 5-10 watt input at this point,  nothing happens on the bird. The dummy load
IS heating up also. Now, if I  try to tune the amp with an RF input present,
I get the bird to INCREASE in  what I'll call "stray RF", and the meter will
also DECREASE more and more  as I tune the amp. As an example, if the bird
reads 50 watts - with 10  watts input, no change. Tuning the amp more, if the
bird reads 150 watts  and I apply an input of 10 watts, the needle drops to
130 watts. With 200  watts with no input, after I apply the 10 watt input,
the meter drops to  ~75 watts, but at this point, my plate current is WAY
over 350ma, and the  fuse blows. It almost seems like something is backwards,
but I don't know  what. Where is this RF coming from if I'm not giving the
amp an input? Is  there a voltage somewhere that's too high, which is causing
the "stray RF"?  I've also heard a carrier on my receiver which "comes &
goes" while I'm  tuning this thing. Again, you experienced guys might have
fixed something  like this before, but I'm too new to understand what's
happening. Any help  will be appreciated. Oh, I did try 3 different tubes -
all with the same  result. They are known to be working from my FAA
amplifier. Thanks...  Larry


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