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Re: [Amps] Open Reply to Steve Cook

To: Steve Cook <sccook1@cox.net>, amps@contesting.com, Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Open Reply to Steve Cook
From: DAVE WHITE <mausoptik@btinternet.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:01:53 +0000 (GMT)
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Be patient.  He may electrocute himself.

--- On Sat, 28/2/09, Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com> wrote:
From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Open Reply to Steve Cook
To: "Steve Cook" <sccook1@cox.net>, amps@contesting.com
Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 8:42 PM

Will someone please get Steve to sit down and be quiet?

73, Pete N4ZR

At 12:26 PM 2/28/2009, Steve Cook wrote:
>Really...
>
>Well let's see Jeff.  You jerked me around for over 2 months when you 
>could have come clean.
>
>Nothing I said is untruthful -- sorry you are "embarrassed."
>
>Perhaps you should rethink your business approach.
>
>I doubt if anyone else here would have been more sympathetic after 
>catching your act.
>
>If you don't want people venting, better grow some honesty or
you're not 
>going to be in the transformer business very long.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>-Steve (((WG7K)))
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jeff Weinberg W8CQ
>   To: amps@contesting.com
>   Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:34 PM
>   Subject: [Amps] Open Reply to Steve Cook
>
>
>   Hi Everyone,
>   I am not going to drag this out.  I will make one reply to Steve's
>   comments and leave it at that.  He is telling his side and I will tell 
> mine.
>
>   I tried to help Steve with a custom design using some of Pete's old
>   designs for similar units.  In order to get the voltage and current
>   ratings he wanted, an A-0550 core was called for.  This particular core
>   is made by Magnetic Metals and their product code is MS-314B.  The price
>   on a pair of those cores alone is over $1600 and with the freight
>   charge, the cost of cores alone is almost $2000 (weight just shy of 175
>   lbs shipped from California to the east coast brings the core cost to
>   almost $2000).
>
>   Pete's old design used this core.  I had assumed that the current
price
>   of that core would be similar to the old price of almost 5 years ago.  I
>   was wrong in my initial estimate of the core cost.  I tried to make a
>   design that would meet Steve's requirements, but I could not do it
based
>   on current core pricing.
>
>   I don't know what else to do.  He told me that someone else could
make
>   the transformer for $2400 or $2500, so I politely told him he should buy
>   it from them.
>
>   Keep in mind, I went though about at least 8 hours of design changes and
>   iterations to try to make Steve happy at no cost to Steve, but I could
>   not do it.  I could not match someone other manufacturer's price and
>   that should have been the end of it.
>
>   I guess Steve has to vent his frustration and that is his right.  I just
>   wanted to tell my side also.
>
>   By the way for Carl KM1H, who do you think helped me with the design of
>   this unit?  Chris, from MagCap, my business partner.  There you go!
>
>   Jeff  W8CQ
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