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Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain

To: "robert briggs" <vk3zl@bigpond.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:45:22 -0400
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Tokyo High Power marketed a cathode driven 2 X 4X150/4CX250 amp that had IMD 
on par with grid driven. The price was high for the power and didnt sell 
well in the US. The few I worked on were well built and looked acceptable on 
the SA for IMD......on par with the exciters.

http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/tokyohpl/hl1ka

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "robert briggs" <vk3zl@bigpond.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:41 AM
Subject: [Amps] Grounded Grid (Screen) 4CX250B power gain


>I have built 4 amplifiers using the 4CX-250B-350R tubes in the so called
> "Super Cathode Driven" mode, tying the control grid to the cathode and
> grounding the screen grid....This design was in some old Bill Orr notes
> but I am now unable to find the reference, however I think this has been
> covered in this reflector some years back..
>
> Off the top of my head I remember the idle current for two tubes is
> around 30ma..I used 2500 volts on the anodes and with about 120 watts of
> drive I could get around 650-750 watts output....Not a lot if you
> consider feed through power...I also remember the tuned Pi input circuit
> had to be spot on to get maximum efficiency from the amplifiers..One
> other thing was when fully loaded the Grid current (Screen) was only 
> 2-3ma..
> I don't remember the input circuit parameters but it was fairly 
> critical...
>
> You know while typing this it brings back quite a lot of memories..
>
> The amplifiers were very stable and reliable and as far as I know are
> all still in use today...Considering that the 4CX250/350 tube pulls are
> a dime a dozen it is still a cheap amplifier and the tubes seem to last
> forever...
>
> For sockets I used 9 pin loctal types or similar and made up a mounting
> plate with a good air flow around the sockets through the tube
> anodes...I coupled the cathode and grid pins all together using thin
> copper strap...
>
> These days I prefer to play with the readily available Russian triodes
> also very cheap tough and reliable and I wouldn't bother with the 250B
> type tubes again but at the time when that was all I had to play with
> they were good solid workers..
>
> 73.
> Bob VK3ZL..
>
>
>
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