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Subject: [Amps] TUNER
From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 06:43:12 -0700
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:03:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob Gibson <w5rg@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amps] TUNER


If you put the tuner at the back of the Amp..Why not just use the tuner in the 
Radio? Bob

## You folks keep forgetting the cathode RF return current pulses  are via the 
C2
cap of any  PI tuned input.   Those pulses are typ  3 times the plate current 
for
AB-2... and  4  times the plate current for class C.   I already know one guy 
here
in town who has fried the auto tuner in his FT-990..from using it as a tuned 
input. 
IE: the auto tuner has to hanle the xcvr's normal RF.... PLUS the 3 x times 
plate current pulses. 
IF your built in PI net tuned circuits  in your amp have a bit of swr on band 
edges
then it's ok to use the auto tuner in the xcvr to take the swr down to 1:1, 
otherwise,
don't mess with the auto tuner.  Besides, when you switch to barefoot, the auto 
tuner
now see's the ant swr, and has to re-tweak itself.  

##  If you mount the tuned input any distance from the cathode, eff  will  go 
to hell
really fast.   You want the C2 cap as close to the cathode as practical.  
Putting
a small fixed cap right at the cathode will shift some of the C2  directly to 
the
cathode, increasing eff on the higher bands... but it can't be too high, 
otherwise
you won't be able to adjust 10m.  50-150 pf  NPO is usually ample. 

## another trick is to use < 50 ohm coax  between C2  and the cathode, esp if
the coax length is > 12-14".   2 x RG-59's in parallel...or  2 x RG-58's  will  
do the 
job.  That's in effect,  like moving C2  closer to the cathode.  That  works 
good on the
upper bands.  

Jim   VE7RF


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